Review of Manchester Utd vs Chelsea Euro Champs Final

For the sake of SHC members who bet regularly on Toto,4D,the casinos and mahjong I strongly urge

members to put a bet in.I have a track record as a horse racing pundit on the horse racing website at

www.7naps.com with a 40% strike rate.At my peak for this season I did achieve a win strike rate of 45%.My insiders111 publication was  featured on Mediacorp’s programme called Tracktalk with 6 winners in a day of 10 races and 10 winners over 2 days of 20 races.My track record as a soccer pundit is getting the result of the last 4 World Cup matches played when Italy beat France in the finals.betting in these 2 fields is akin to advise being given by a good stockbroker who advises you on shares on the stock exchange.You need good research and a superior method of analysis to make $$$.

So here goes,(if I am wrong Tim Liu would probably be the 1st to throw egg on my face  followed by Terence)Terence seldom bet but was persuaded to do so by yours truly at last night’s Bachelor Nite

which was warmly gatecrashed by 3 charming ladies(warmly received).There goes the gossip grapevine working overtime!(I hope the 3 ladies don’t throw shoes at me when we meet the next time).Moderator if this is too scandalous please censor.

Here goes Take a draw on 1 X 2… 90 min result… logical reasoning market opened at $2.85

now drifted to $2.70…very confident…put a big bet on this…my bet is $100(very puny by Tim’s standards in comparison)

medium confidence token bet for better value(greedy for bigger odds…may be my undoing).

Take a token bet $5 or $10 on half-time/full-time on D-D ie DRAW-DRAW(from $4.40 drifted to $3.70)

plus another token bet on zero goals at $5 only(average is $9.00 for usual games but this is the lowest odds for this bet to the best of my memory…market opened at $6.50 drifted to $5.50

low level of confidence speculative bets at good odds …this bet must be taken in tandem…under special bets…Chelsea to win after 90 mins at $8.25 and Chelsea to win on penalties at $9.00.I am not confident of this position and for those die hard Man Utd fans I recommend this bet(2bets in tandemat $

as a better bet than For Man Utd to win on the 1 X 2 at $2.30

28 thoughts on “Review of Manchester Utd vs Chelsea Euro Champs Final”

  1. With the gusto of a raging bull and the bravado of a desperate gambler giving his last hurrah, PatrickK has written this thread. However do please let me ameliorate the gush that has caught up with those sitting on the fence and now wanting to plunge on the side of gambling. No, if you’re not a gambler, pls dont make it a habit.

    The Man Utd-Chelsea clash is the ultimate of the soccer craze which stretches for almost a year starting from the qualifiers. Almost 70,000 fans will jam the Moscow stadium to watch with tens of millions more glued to the tv sets at kopitaims and even igloos. It is THE show of the year. And so putting a small wager to add that bit more excitement is understandable but dont turn yrself into an addict if you win, or try to recoup yr loss if you end up betting the a lame duck.

    I have just asked my kiddo daughter who goes by the color. She said the blues will win. Yes, I am backing Chelsea by a solitary goal.

    Caveat emptor, no less.

  2. This comment id done on the 45 mins after Man Utd have scored the !st goal and Chelsea have replied with a goal but sms was sent to Terence b4 match started “I bet big bet on DRAW n token bet on DRAW-DRAW zero goals plus Chelsea to win in extra time n Chelsea to win by penalties.But likely result draw in 90 mins.HOME-DRAW N cHELSEA to win in extra-time ie 1-0 lead by Man Utd at half time,1-1 DRAW at full time n 2-1 or 3-1 win by Chelseain extra-time n no win by penalty kicks.PAT

  3. I have been labelled a “raging bull” and a “desperate gambler”My defence is that I have been very patient and careful and cautious in posting last night’s tip. Since my acceptance into the SHC fold in April I have not dared to give advice on this subject until I received permission to do so.In addition I waited for a confident prediction before I posted the thread…I did not like the idea of innocent SHC rookie investors losing money due to “bad influence” from me.In all I spent $150…$100 on the draw at 90 mins and a $10 token bet on all the mentioned permutations with a return on the draw at $270 and $37 on the DRAW-DRAW(i got lucky) for the half-time/full-time .Total return $307 on investment or 54.67% as opposed to playing black/red on the roulette table for a 48.65% winning chance.As i told a SHC member our chances of winning are better than playing black/red in a casino.The irony is that I gave the same advice to 2 SHC members in the presence of 2 tables of SHC members on Stag’s night;one followed my advice and bet strongly on the draw(and won money) but put a token bet(this bet lost) on Chelsea to win the cup regardless of the 90 mins.,the other choose a different direction and presumably drew or lost his stake when the Chelsea Blue did not win based on a whim or gut feeling on a good luck charm while my selection was made researching the statistics.Even with my proven track record and experience I did not achieve a perfect result and got the after 90 mins result wrong…although I did make provisions for this result in my thread by suggesting Man Utd fans could support their team by taking Man Utd to win after 90 mins and a tandem bet for Man Utd to win on penalties at good odds of $9.00(eventual final result).A brother of a SHC member agreed with me on the draw and made money on Man Utd to win after 90mins or by penalties. So my prediction was just OK compared to his great predictions.Whatever it may be the bottom-line is that 3 of us made some pocket money.
    The difference between gambling and investing…this gambling tag would have been appropriate in my younger days
    when I consistently lost more than I won.Gambling is an appropriate tag for 4D ,Toto and casino players(no matter what system you employ to improve your chances but there are good plays and bad plays) would be undisputed.It would also be an appropriate tag for poor mahjong players(like me as an example) who loose consistently rather than win.This tag would also be appropriate for soccer betting players and horse racing players and inexperienced stock investors who loose consistently rather than win.The additional tag of desperate would be justified if one looses beyond his means(not the amount be it $100,$1000 or $10,000)and cannot pay the bills and cannot eat the same breakfast after loosing.
    Investing can apply to a stock broker,a long term property
    player(short term can be deemed gambling or speculation),a soccer pundit/player or horse-racing pundit/player who consistently shows a profit over a period of time …not just a one-off result or performance which could be a fluke.
    I have shown that on my http://www.7naps .com horse-racing website that one can make a profit over a $5 bet on all the selections that I have made since the season started…albeit a modest profit.If anybody has doubts that I made winning selections for the last 4 World Cup matches
    please let me know and I will furnish the documentary evidence for this and any other records of my claim to fame.
    A good mahjong player who consistently wins although luck does play a part(but luck will even out in the long run) can be considered an investor.I know of some lady players who I would invest and back them to win but if you were to ask people to invest money on my mahjong everybody who knows my pathetic standard will run away.
    If my posting has created undue stress to a majority of SHC members who do not approve of my investment advice I shall discontinue these tips in future.Please shoot me down or throw a shoe if you feel like doing so.
    For those who have made money on my input please defend me!

    If there are no serious objections I will continue to recommend the occasional bet and prove that one can still make money with judicious selections after careful research.
    I rest my case.Disclaimer clause will still apply.

    Your resident pundit(if there are no objections)

    Patrick Khoo

  4. I lost and, like the battered lion, am still licking my wounds, 9 hours after the champion has been crowned. The match was a tale of 2 halves : the first was pulsating and the 2nd, insipid.

    Chelsea’s Petr Cech, rated the world’s no. 1 goalie, stood rooted when MU’s Ronaldo let fly a head-barge which put the ball at the back of the net. It was a defensive slip-up with Essien doing a ball-watching instead of man-marking.

    Cech redeemed himself twice when in a 1-to-1, he flew full-length to parry off a shot bound for goal, and stopped another with his torso.

    Seconds before the end of the 1st half, a seemingly innocuos punt from mid-field found the backside of a MU defender (was he Vidic?) bounced onto the path of the rampaging Lampard who slotted the ball in. 1-1 at half-time.

    Apparently, MU had no ambition to win in 90 mins and so without their attacking, the game turned into a drab. Stars (other than 1 flicker from Ronaldo) didnt shine and so I chose my bed than to watch them play into extra time, convinced that a penalty shoot-out was imminent. And in a penalty shoot-out, the better shot-stopper is Van der Sar (the MU goalie. And so it was.

    Man Utd……. deserving winners? Nah……..

  5. Tim, I almost bet on Chelsea. The $100 is still in my pocket.

    PatrickK, I had difficulty understanding how you lost your big bet. Maybe you should consider writing in blocks of smaller paragraphs. So, no more games for you. End of season.

    Terence Seah

  6. Hi Terence ,
    I would like to point out that my $100 big bet came through on the draw at a return of $270 as I had advised with full
    confidence.I had a return of $37 for a token bet of $10 on the Draw-Draw while my other token bets bit the dust.How ?can do more tips on soccer the next time for selected matches?My tip won…so do I get a red card for soccer tipping or do I get a reprieve for giving the winning tip with reasons behind my judgement.

  7. Well, I received a sms at 1 a.m. and the tipster was spot-on………MU to score first, followed closely by Chelsea’s equaliser and the game wd drag into a stalemate with penalties as the decider. MU wd emerge as the 2008 Euro Champs. That tipster who took a mortgage of all his assets, pawning his saffron turbans and emptying his cpf, must hv won big and I wont identify him unless he doesnt come out to say who he is…………and buy us all a big makan.

    Jokes aside, fellow SHCians reading this thread, please take it as a hobby sharing by a member. I am with you if you say it’s not the best of hobbies but do pls let PatrickK tell us, on and off, a bit of what he knows instead of making him leave his trumpet on the shelf to gather dust.

  8. Hello Patrick,

    I am a big EPL fan and usually bet 20-30 bucks a weekend to get a little flutter. With the Euro 2008 around the corner, I am looking forward to checking out your predictions.

    Andrew

  9. Patrcik-K, pending yr preview of the Euro 2008, I will use yr thread to talk abt the Uzbekistan-Spore match played last nite at the National Stadium.

    My butty Ah Singh (a distant relative of our own Ah Sengh) told me to put my $on Any Other Score (meaning Uz will hit at least 6 goals past Spore) which paid $75 for every dollar wagered. I demurred, believing that spore playing at home wd camp all 11 players in front of goal to prevent a avalanche. The smart alec me marked 1-1 and 2 goals as the final score. Well, Uz hit spore 7 times with the latter replying only thrice.

    Knowing Singh, a $100 bet is small beer so he must hv made a bundle even as 90% of investors continued ti spit smell saliva (pui chao nua) this morning and probably until the next match.

    On field, Uz scored at ease and with aplomb. Spore was all at seas and topped it up with some comical acts like when they conceded the 3rd goal.

    The Uz right winger punted in a hopeful ball which cut across the Spore goal out of harm’s way. But a garang gabok defender lunged in, hooked the ball to stop it on the goaline and sat there admiring the ball and his clever antics. He expected a clap but what the Uz forward did was to give the ball a tap and it trickled in.

    A mis-match? No, it was no match. Thankfully tho, the spore team isnt giving any excuses but accepted that they were just not on par. Probably they need to naturalise a player like Frank Lampard or his more meaty cousin, Fat Lampar……….

  10. early this morning just after the 1st Euro semi final I had a flash of inspiration and started sms some SHC members after an member sms me that he was very confident Germany will eat Turkey (pardon the pun )for breakfast.My sms contained this message “Could be draw at half time and Germany to win in 90 mins at odds of $1 to $4.”Nothing that Ron Wie, Tim Liu,Terence Seah and Daniel Chan could have done so late unless they had a betting account.By the time I sms the last SHC member it was 20 mins into the game.

    I shall stick my neck out again and this time u guys have time to do something about it so here goes my next flash of inspiration.

    Medium – Big bet confidence
    Russia and Spain to Draw at 90 mins at odds of $3.10 and dipping further.

    Token bet – I am taking the likely option of tandem bet on
    home draw and away draw at $13 each but must bet both together.Odds for draw-draw at $4.80.currently …monitor closely before making final decision …see which odds go down more …the $13 or the $4.80

    I am very confident Spain will enter the finals even though I know that the Russians are fitter from the pure soccer point of view.However I suspect that they will win only after 90 mins

    If you look at it from the soccer only point of view u will realize the Spanish confidence and the general market confidence after the early round 3-1 defeat at the hands of the Spanish.Can Arshavin make a difference?Gary Lim of the Newpaper has the same opinion as me and we are usually right!The difference is that he has picked a draw-draw

    Likely score 1-1 at 90 mins but resist betting on scoreline
    as it a poor bet option…better to invest more on a draw.

    If Spain wins within 90 mins I might get egg and further potshots so disclaimer clause and caveat emptor(borrow copyright from Tim Liu)applies.

    Official bet $50 with token bet of $5 each on HD AD

    Good Luck

    P.S. watch this column for last min updates on the betting line.Any of the 4 care to confirm the sms for 1st semi final?

    Your Kiasu( Malay for – scared to die ) Soccer Pundit

  11. LAST CALL

    I will stick with my original position as the draw odds have dropped from $3.10 to $3.00 to $2.95 while a Spanish win at 90 mins has hovered between $1.90 to $2.00 to $1.95

    What is more significant is that the draw – draw odds have dropped 20 cents to $4.60 but the Home-Draw and Away-Draw have dropped even more significantly by $2.00 to $11.00

    As such my token tandem bets on home-draw and away draw
    will still stand.

    I am still confident Spain will still enter the Finals
    but after 90 mins

    Good Luck…your resident pundit…anybody has a different opinion?

  12. Ref #12

    I guess the CEASEFIRE was too good to last…your famous last words “Will try my best to conform “in Vietnam post ref #122(somehow don’t see you as a conformist…
    more an ego-deficient and deprived attention seeker who constantly wants to be in the limelight).Arnie ‘ s words from the Terminator seems to suit your personality better
    …”I’ll be back”.I guess you saw it fit to launch your Tet (Vietnamese New Year) Offensive a little prematurely as usual (typical about you).

    You have a knack of making something minor turn into a melodrama of a soap opera or a Vietnam war Saga.You usually like to hide behind ladies’s skirts(or pants for guys
    as the case may be) and repeat people’s statements especially when they are negative.Don’t you have original statements to make on your own or do you hide in a crowd so that you can be immune from return fire.?

    Just because the words “bet” and “betting line” appear in the forum that does not mean that the forum is a cesspool for bettors and bookmakers(not the bookbinding type)
    You sentence “Is betting allowed in the forum” are rather misleading(typical of you with your past affinity with words like aspersions and alluding but never directly answering questions when asked and challenged on the forum). I have lost count on the numerous occasions you have not responded to my questions on the forum.
    Did I actually bet ? If so may I ask who the bookies are? Was it Singapore Pools or was it illegal bookies that I allegedly bet with?

    I confess that I did bet legally with Singapore Pools (outside the forum ) on the 1st match between Chelsea and Man Utd but I did confide to a SHC member that I have not got involved so far on Euro Cup but I did intend to bet in the final.

    I am trying (besides blowing my trumpet) to advise members that placing a bet with Singapore Pools on soccer is similar to investing in stocks and shares and a much better option than playing 4D and Toto(unless you are the one in a million winner).If you know what you are doing and I have a previous track record of doing so and have proven in this forum that I can return a profit on investment.Not counting my belated advice to the D’Artagnan and the 3 Musketeers on the Germany vs Turkey match for return of $10
    to $40. I have officially through the forum had a return on the 1st $100 invested (with a healthy return) and lost $50 on last night’s Spain vs Russia debacle.If you can accept
    SHC members playing 4D and Toto(or do you object!) than I don’t understand what you are griping about.I am not advocating a lifestyle of gambling but investing if you know what you are doing….and to each his own and who are you to tell us otherwise.

    Even as Integrated Resorts are coming in late 2009 and approved already…I guess you will also object.Try telling Daniel or Tim that they cannot go to visit casinos
    and you will probably not just get return sniper but a barrage of bombardment.

    The Defence rests

  13. Hi Pat..I missed this thread. But better late than never, before some purists garner enough votes to bury you…ooops…I mean your “illegal underground unlicensed bad-influenced betting centre”

    Tonight surf or turf…….or sand?

    Will Germany conquer Europe with 11 men and a stupid ball?

    Short, sharp and sweet answers please.

  14. Hi Patrick Khoo ,

    I ask Terence to clarify and not you out of curiosity.

    I do not understand why you are so upset and stir up the hornet nest . What happens in the past is over.

    Pls. do not brood over it.

  15. Steven, I see no wrong in Patrick’s love to bet and so shares his bet. Be real, who isnt thinking of making a quick buck (woe betides him for losing more in the process)?

    Gambling or betting is not be everyone’s past-time, and in any case, we are old enough to say a frim and thunderous “no” to an wager offer if we dont want it.

    Btw, those who had listened to and folowed his tips are sharpening their knives and cleavers. So if you see Terence wearing sarong, you shd know why………btwn his legs hides the trembing Patrick-Khoo, shrinking like a cuckoo bird……..

  16. Hi Steven and everybody,

    Before SilverHairsClub was launched, I had spent considerable time, working out what can or cannot be discussed on an internet forum. I decided that the topics to be taboo’d will include politics, sex, race and religion. And to be sure, we enjoy the company of other SHCians, I also feel that direct selling and MLM should be taboo’d.

    I have worked in the newspaper world for more than 20 years, But it’s not just my exposure to media and publishing, but that everyone of us is over 45.

    The media is full of tips and analysis. You find that in investments, horses, football, anything. In short, you are free to share anything under this moon with fellow SHCians, except for the taboos. But, if you collect bets from fellow SHCians, either you or I will go to jail. That’s about how it works.

    Our rules are simple. I prefer we are not restrictive in our reflections and comments. So go ahead, and dream. Run wild if you like.

    So to end this comment, you can invite me to anything outragous eg an orgy, and I shall come along; even if it’s just for 3.

    Terence Seah

  17. Hi Terence

    Pretty gd idea. An orgy 4 3. Hmmm…mayb 6 9 wld b better. 1st must get a plc leh. If reli cant get then go 2 Mandai jungle wif a straw mat.

  18. Ref #12 and #15
    Was it merely a clarification?
    A clarification would have read as “Are discussions on soccer betting allowed on the forum”If you had put it across in that manner than nobody would “bust your chops”(American slang for go after you).

    Curiosity is OK but when it’s excessive when you poke your long nose where it does not belong then Curiosity will kill (at least verbally in the forum)the cat.You practically accused me of betting on the forum with your question ” Is betting allowed on the forum”.

    You are entitled to an opinion(even a different one from me or anybody else or any SHC member)but you better put it across accurately.You can’t keep on saying something and say you mean something else.If you can’t steer a straight course
    you ought to ask Tim for help before before you implicate yourself and libel somebody one day if you had not already done so already.The gloves are still on(no name calling) for this round and I’ll go easy on you and just state the points accordingly.

    I strongly suggest for you not to come within my rifle sight on the forum unless you feel strongly on a subject and back it with facts.If you continue to twist your words and mess around in the forum in the forum the gloves(verbal anyway) are off!

    I do not brood (got better things to do)over things and even requested for a CEASEFIRE and left you alone unmolested verbally but you had to cast (people who live in glass houses do not throw stones) a stone at the hornet’s nest and than feign innocence and say oh it only a clarification(pebble thrown – how innocent and convenient!).I do not take kindly to false accusations and innuendos and twisted words not backed up with facts.If you continue to harass me in the forum I
    will entertain SHC members with my version of “Phantom of the Opera at your expense with a “FAT BOY”(the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki) bomb(verbal of course).

    I leave you with this offering of a peace pipe(remember Chief Sitting Bull).If you are nice I can be nicer!!!
    You don’t have to like me…just live peacefully in harmony.

    Your wannabe(want to be) resident soccer pundit on soccer
    investment(still showing a profit$$$)

  19. I am not advocating soccer betting or horse racing for the innocent who do not even touch Toto or 4D or Mahjong or paying the Money Market or stocks and shares or the Futures Market or go to casinos

    In any investment vehicle one must have the experience(as MJ players will tell you…you pay to learn and believe me I have done my fair share of paying$$$$$!)You either learn from a
    Si-Fu(teacher), a Guru or a Mentor and benchmark what you we learn with add ons from good books and the internet and initially pay as you learn process(the learning curve has to be brief to make it worthwhile)

    Ref #16
    I do not have to fear knives and cleavers or have to hide between Terence’s legs “shrinking like a cuckoo bird”(what were thinking of?a BJ perhaps…I like and respect (although
    we have different opinions sometimes and sometimes we agree) but I am not GAY!

    My record as a soccer pundit speaks for itself in this forum
    …not fantastic but still showing a profit even if my prediction for tonight goes wrong I’ll be breaking even or thereabouts.

    You are also a first hand witness to my abilties as a horse racing pundit on the Hong Kong web-site http://www.7naps.com
    where I give a free tip on every Singapore race day with an approximately 40% strike rate.If you were to Bet $5 to win on every tip since the season started you will still have a modest profit.You have seen my form for the last 3 race days tipping 1st favourites(no big deal) at odds of 2-1 or 1.8 to 1 to win.The interesting part is that I have proven that you can get returns of $1228 from investment of $48 and $313 and $134 from a minimal investment of $16.I even predicted the 1st 2 horses with returns of $11 and $17 with a mere $4
    investment.There are loosing days of course ! However I have provided winning advisories to you and the 7naps website before the races started.

    So my advise is don’t bet! If you still want to bet on 4D or Toto or casinos or Futures than soccer betting or even horse racing is a better alternative as I have proven in the internet domain on silverhairsclub and 7naps.

    Anybody interested in a possible winning day at the races let me know 1 week(have to do homework and research) in advance.Caveat Emptor clause applies of course!

    Happy investing! Your wannabe resident soccer pundit

  20. GERMANY VS SPAIN

    The 2 semi final wins are a perfect set up for the final showdown between Germany and Spain .They have showed outright wins in the 2 matches and showed Spain in top form( I did say I was very confident that Spain will reach the finals but not in 90 mins).In this forum I have showed a theoretical return of $270 from an initial investment plus token bets(some collected on draw-draw in the Chelsea Man Utd game).I theoretically incurred a $50 loss on the 2nd semi final match plus $5 token bets.In the forum I will officially state as medium-big bet confidence and theoretically stake $50 on a draw at 90 mins.SPAIN at $2.30 for a win in 90 mins looks temptingbut looks like a trap waiting for greenhorns to take the extra 30 cents bonus bait over the $2.00 margin.I will also theoretically stake $40 for a Spain win after 90 mins at odds of$1.67.Remember Germany were the pre-tournament favourites so the bookmakers will stand to loose more if the original favourites were lucky enough to win the tournament.A Spain win after 90mins will suit them nicely.This cover bet reduces your losses if Spain does win in 90 mins and you have the luxury of cheering(part of the enjoyment of betting) Spain on for a victory after 90 mins(securely having won on the draw at 90 mins.).Even if Germany wins after 90 mins you winnings are reduced but still end up a winner.You only loose badly if Germany wins outright in 90 mins.For the big money odds I will theoretically stake a $10 token bet on Draw-Draw.My total investment is $100 and I would still break even with some small change till the EPL season reopens.As for myself (very confident)I have stayed away from the betting window till this Final Match.I would be betting $100 on DRAW at 90 mins.$50 on Spain to win but after 90 mins. and $10 on a DRAW-DRAW(for those with itchy fingers I recommend a 0-0 scoreline at half time only-I am not betting on this).I predict(don’t bet on actual score…bad odds and too risky) Spain to score 1st in the 2nd half and Germany to even the score by 90 mins to make it 1-1.Spain will go on to win in extra time or penalties.Incidentally I had made a prediction with a colleague (won a coke from him in Champions League Final) and gave him the 1st choices and he took Spain and Portugal.I made a selection on Germany and France(even I can make a mistake!).The looser will have to buy lunch.Hope I collect enough money to pay for his lunch.If not I am going to console myself and grudgingly enjoy the hollow victory with a pinch of salt.the FREE lunch.
    From the soccer purist’s point Spain looks convincingly HOT for an outright win despite David Villa’s absence through injury.The less mobile Germans look good for a goal through set pieces or from a headed goal from the relatively short Spanish backline.Whatever it is I am going to sleep early with my alarm set at 2.30am(for pre match preparations…coke with ice) and look foward to an intriguing match and exciting(especially when you make money …twice the FUN!).SSShhh …don’t tell my Boss!

    Anybody courageous enough to make a prediction? Till the start of the EPL next season do enjoy the match..Good Luck and Adios Muchachos!

    HOPEFUL not to be sacked as the wannabe resident soccer pundit

  21. My predictions

    FULL TIME SCORE : DRAW
    HT / FT SCORE : D – D
    TOTAL GOALS : 4
    EXACT SCORE (FT) : 2 – 2

    AND FINALLY : GERMANY TO CONQUER EUROPE
    and I get something from SINGAPORE POOLS.

    Wish me LUCK !!!!

  22. Hi PatrickK,

    Looks like you have company, Daniel Chan. Now, how about trying to make it easier to read. Then, maybe someone like me can understand. Write no more than 15 lines. I am no gambler; neither am I a football fan. Good luck.

    Terence Seah

  23. latest pre-match analysis

    As I settle down with my mug if iced coke
    there was a false rumour Michael Ballack is not playing…
    turns out to be false.

    The last minute SMART MONEY seems to be drifting towards Spain
    and away from Germany but not by not by much.Odds for a draw remains firm.

    If it remains goaless or draw at half-time I will have a pretty good chance.If Spain leads 0-1 at half-time I will have a headache with an away away result and the danger of a 1-2 victory for Spain.

    Asked Tim for an opinion he told me his computer doggy picked the red ball so he is taking the “Ang Beh”(red horse or favourite in Chinese)or the red jerseys of the Spanish Armada.

    Win or loose I will be eating the same breakfast tomorrow(if loose no extra “Otah” or fish paste)…aah the good life.However I do envy Terence with his carefree and worry-free retirement lifestyle.. a great lifestyle!!!$$$

    10 mins (still no goals yet) into the game at time of posting.Likely score-line now guessing to be 1-1 or 1-2 victory to Spain at odds of 7-1 as a tandem bet.Hoping for 0-0 scoreline at half-time and full – time so I don’t get a heart attack with all the excitement.

    Enjoy the game!

    Still hopeful and quietly confident pundit

  24. At half-time the score is 0-1 to Spain with a goal by Fernando Torres in the 33Mins.

    Starring nervously at possible defeat as away-away at 4-1 is more likely than away-draw at 13-1.

    If score remains the same can only console myself with return of $65.20 on an investment of $100 in the forum…a nett loss
    of $34.80

    As for myself looking at return of $81.50 on an investment of $160…a nett loss of $78.50(looks like no Otah for me for breakfast.Can only hope for the best now!

    A nervous soccer pundit

  25. Patrick, going by the numbers you hv shown us, your net loss cant be $34.80………..I will be contacting you shortly so dont get shot by yrself or by others before that…………………

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