SilverHairsClub has been very successful, in terms of membership and participation. I think SHC has been an excellent platform for SilverHairs to meet new friends; and obviously I like to see it continue many years into the future.
SHC has many dedicated leaders and many supporters to the same objective. Take our walking leaders Christina, Charles and Jeffrey. Then, the never say die cycling EO Yew Kwong. Their events have been going on for years. Take Susan Chan, with her dedicatioin to bring in likeminded friends to SHC. Newer members like Sam Goh with SHC always on hs mind. Then, there is missing Dolly.
Oh, there are many strong supporters in SHC. Dan, Ah Nee, Susan, Molly. JuneL, appearing only on TGIF. RonW, Dennis, JohnH. The quieter Ann, Sophia, Mary, …. As you can see the numbers keep stretching. SHC runs very much on its own, with EOs and ECs popping up everytime and anytime. We have been trying to get a Club Manager to keep the club vibrant. Yeap, a few names surfaced; but many felt the current system works well. A bit disorganised, not much of a system, but something which I too like. Very often, we try to be organised; altho I think some disorganisation is great for our minds. So, as you can see, SHC is just fantastic, and we should not let it slip.
Some of you know I am planning to send my son, accompanied by my wife, to study in Perth next year. It will be a fact that I will have little time in Singapore. And of course, little if not no time for SHC. We therefore need to think of how to let SHC continue, without letting it slip. You will be surprised that there are more members than you know or have seen in SHC. Perhaps, they are shy, or waiting to join us some days in the activities. I will still continue to particpate, on a limited time. In fact, I have a time line of end Dec 2010.
If you can do some thing for SHC, speak up. Tell us how you would be able to lead SHC to the next level. Let’s give ourselves early June 2010 to decide how we can proceed. The new leader or team will have full executive decisions over SilverHairsClub and SilverHairsClub.com.
Terence Seah
Nominations for Club Manager:
- Dan Huang
- KK Loh
- Susan Chan
- Robert Quek
- Ah Nee
Yio Terence,
I saw the name “Mary”. Did you mean me? Malu only. Haven’t been participating much in SHC activities much as I want to.
My grand daughter is the one responsible for taking up so much of my time. I will try to be more active and supportive when time permits.
Your news about your son’s education is great but Perth is just a few hours away mah. Besides you have been leading SHC from a distance all the time, so why not from Perth?
It’s going to be difficult to find someone really, fully committed to take over from you, especially when SHC is your brainchild.
Anyway, whatever the outcome of your decision,I hope to see SHC ‘prosper’ and progress and become more vibrant.
Good luck :-)
Since Dolly stepped down as club manager, I have been pretty focused on looking on a replacement. At the same time, my planned absence starting Jan 2011 will add further pressure to my wanting to see SHC continue in a similar direction.
I spoke with Yew Kwong and other senior SHCians to get feedback on this issue. I believe there are a number of SHCians who would like to run the club, with some changes along the way. But they are reluctant for various reasons. We felt we should go the nominations way. Members can nominate someone whom they feel can manage and direct the club. The nominee will then have to accept or reject the nomination. Of course, if the nominee accepts the nomination, then he/she will have to smile and say what he/she will do for the club. Less words and more action and activity will say a lot. No vote will be taken until after end June 2010.
I hope you will nominate someone who can take SHC to a new direction. Hopefully, he/she will continue to adopt the same objective and club taboos. The only thing which the new Club manager cannot do is to shut down SilverHairsClub and SilverHairsClub.com. All current volunteers of SHC will take directions from the new Club Manager. The term is 3 years.
Please go ahead with your nominations. Members can also say what they like to see in the new Club Manager.
Terence Seah
Hmm, since Dec’09 started wrkg at Haikou, had been very busy with work here so hardly log in2 here 2 read.
3 years terms might be abit too long leh, why not, say 2years with option to stay long another year if he/she still wanted to serve SHC as CM.
Cheers.. Dolly
Ya, woman (since the suggestion comes from a woman) why not a firm 1 year contract with an option to extend for two further terms of 1 year each subject to good behaviour and impeccable conduct in and outside of the bedroom while in service, to wit, absolutely no association, connection or involvement, directly or indirectly, with/in any scandal or misfeasance of any descript or manifest any manner or mannerism which may be deemed as imappropriate by any memeber, male, female or of the 3rd gender.
Hehe, mamber we will have to recurit a foreign talent to meet these criteria. According to today’s ST, the West Africans are quite good……and they have those hot stuff to share with all SHCians.
Hi Dolly,
Good to hear from you, all the way from Haikou. I note your suggestion. Meantime, have you an nominees in mind?
Terence Seah
Hi Terence,
I think the club has been going on quite well based on the original concept of having different EOs running regular events like cycling, walking, badminton, monthly gathering,etc.
Having a permanent figure or team will only create certain bias towards a group, a following, etc and discourage exciting and more interesting events that have colorful flavors.
The idea to encourage all members to register their profile and of holding at least one event big or small as and EO are rules that can foster greater club interest and activities.
So we should push forward for more EOs to start and adopt a certain activity. Maybe we can start a calendar of events for the year/years and encourage people to form support groups or co-EOs to make the plan events a continuing success. Marilyn, Lisa, Frisna are good examples of new mebers who
People like Sue, Dan n Joy, YK, Chris Chan, Douglas, KK, Robert n Kristy, even Patrick (MJ group) are already doing a good job and with more people coming forward as EOs the club will certainly not be spoilt for choices.
A job as a club manager puts too much pressure on one person or group and in a way discourage multi EO multi interest activities that cater to one and all.
There are many more potential EOs for many activities, and there are some EOs who however for one reason or another organises activities in private selecting particular individuals. There is nothing wrong with this but there miss the fun of being open, and meeting new people and making new friends, widening their mindsets.
So let us push for more EOs and more activities from new members, who have the heart and passion to share their interests with one and all. The search for one person as club manager who can be like Terence is akin to looking for a lost cause but with finding more EOs behaving like Terence will be more practical.
Cheers
Hi TimL #4,
If I have a committee role for you, it will be “storyteller of the century”. Suits you well. You are an intelligent and systematic writer. Great imagination. If I break down the profile of our website readers, there are three categories of members reading your comments.
1. The first group reads the first line, and skip all the rest. No comments. How come SHC has someone like you in the club.
2. The second group enjoys reading what you write, from trivial to serious issues, and loves a good debate and challenge with you. I think many in this group see you as exciting, fun and generally nice person. And, someone trying to have a hard heart, altho the heart is made of New Zealand cheese.
3. The third group thinks you are a nut. Not comprehensible, most times. Just trying to irritate the shit out every member who tries to offer good suggestions. Absolutely good at distracting the trend of thoughts. For those who have met you, many see you as nice, sweet and shy. For those who do not know you or have not met you, you are a real nut. Maybe we should marry you off asap.
Tim, I also think you are a nut. But, I think you are just as human as everybody else. You like to see other people happy. Personally, I hope to marry you off too. Thank you for being a great supporter of SHC. I love reading 90% of your puzzles.
Terence Seah
Terence @ #7,
You must have fallen from the tree after a weary day into nite with the macaw talking everything as you both dwelled in the realm off nonsense. Now, you’re back in your elements, making every bit you say nothing but sense and sensibility. For this, you’re never short of admirers; not least me who really enjoy your analysis of the probable readership of my writings here.
You wanna marry me off? Will I be third time lucky? You bet.
# nites ago, I was watching this pretty with big round boobs veiled thinly under a tee as he thumped away on the jackpot machine. His jeans were dropping which chowed a nice crevice that left nothing to imagination.
Terence, knowing you, I think the 3rd gender will appeal to you as much as it does to me. I am warning up to it…….really. You, too, can as it certainly isnt polygamy as the term is presently defined. And certainly, so much better than perching atop a branch with a male macaw.
Dear Terence,
We will miss you.
If it is the family or settling-in time that you want in Perth, then I am sure SHCians will understand.
I hope that when you and your family are comfortably settled in Perth, you may want to make a come back, energised and ready, to reconnect with the SHC from where you’d left off.
Best wishes.
From,
Geok Suan.
Hi Dolly #3,
Welcome back for a short holiday. Good to hear from you. I take note of the 3 year time as Club Manager, being rather long. Ok, I bear this in mind.
Hi RonaldW #6,
You have been with SHC for a long time, and you know how it works. Your point about encouraging more EOs and ECs has always been supported; and I agree with you this concept has worked well and should continue. Any member can organise an activity and invite others to join him/her.
I think the new Club Manager will have a pressured role. But, maybe he/she likes it; and that’s what I am looking for. I doubt the role is easy. Key is to energise SHCians as we move along our Silverhairs years. As you can see from participation, most members are lethargic when it comes to organising an activity. On the other hand, many SHCians are supportive to take part in activities being organised by fellow SHCians. Maybe shy to raise the hand, maybe no time as need to work or maybe afraid of criticisim.
Hopefuly, the new CM can give new guideliness, new directions and new encouragement. The monthly gathering is a feature of SHC, so that should continue.
Great you suport the idea of EOs and ECs continuing what they are doing. You definitely are one of them.
Now, look around and spot your next CM nominee.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence,
All said and done we should stick to the present format where anyone is free to be EO. Some of the events that create a lot of excitement the previous year are not held anymore.
Instead of waiting for each other to take the initiative to organize an event or activities, we should open up for suggestion from member as to what kind of programs will generate interest among the community of SHC.
Our regular events like the walks on every second Saturday of the month and cycling on every third Saturday of the month are under a very capable groups of people. The first and last Saturday are open to anyone to initiate some form of events.
What happens to the annual D&D, Games day, Talentimes and other events that were a regular feature in SHC? Is it the lack of member willing to take up the tasks?
We should forecast a year long programs for the SHC calendar, opening up to member to come forth with suggestions as to the venue, the cost.
Joy and I take pleasure in organizing activities, it is our way of expressing our appreciation for the friendship, fellowship and fun in meeting people in the Club.
Our need for a CM is someone who can plan and tap on the expertise among us.
My 7 cents worth!
Dan
Hi Dan #11,
I think you have summarise well what are some of the tasks of the Club Manager. Planning into the future does require dedication and time and effort. We lack that someone.
Let’s continue to be on the lookout for someone to hands up or invite nominations.
Terence Seah
Indeed.
Many still hold fondly to remembering the great fun of fumbling and tumbling at the last annual dinner & dance, talentime, games’ day which sadly will soon fade into memories of yesteryears. These regular but mammoth events appear to have difficulty finding EOs.
Meanwhile, many have made friends among themselves – which also fulfills one primary objective of SHC. They form their own smaller interest groups which are more focussed and cater to smaller numbers; consequently, pose fewer headaches in logistic plannings and in meeting individual likes & dislikes (idiosyncratic sometimes, outright idiotic at times).
Terence is candid to ask that whoever this future CM is, he/she needs to have dedication – indefatigable dedication if I may add – can and will give time and effort.
Best if he/she is patient, affable and no matter how hopeless a situation is, is still optimistic and hopeful. No pay, in $ or in kind. The rewards…….many thank yous, hugs and kisses and a few brickbats and the occasional litany of bad-mouthings.
Where to find him/her? I dunno but if there exited one in A.D. 0, there must be one in our midst in A.D. 2010.
Terence,
Yeap, back 4 sales mtg n took opportunity 2 spend weekend in SG lor.. Potential candidates, I m sure u must hv approached tose few dat I oso hv in mind. But till now, no announcement frm u meant dat they hv decided not 2 go 4 it lor.. tio bo?
Tim, EOs r difficult 2 find these days cos expectations r much higher now as ppls were tend 2 compare present n past, bo ho rite? But I still believed dat we still hv many among us..
We still hv 3mths b4 Jun mah keep our fingers x dat by den, we might hv a CM liao lor.. hehehehe…
I will give my list of nominees at a later date lor if bo .. Cheers.. Dolly
Dolly, isnt it your fault that members’ expectation of a CM is now so high?
By your dedication and zest not just to do a job but to do it better than well, you hv set a very high standard which is hard to emulate, let alone surpass it.
Hehe, you created the problem, now how?
“Jie ling hai she si ling ren” so come back to resume the task lor………I blanjar you candies, sweets and a KL massage, ai mai?
Dan,
You stress on motivating others to plan and organise activities so that others with interest can come forward to be EOs, maybe we should organise one meeting just for this.
A Meeting ‘How to be an EO and plan an acitivity either for one event or to have it as a montly event”. It will also then help them to find co-EOs and gauge support for their proposed activities.
On this same note, Dan, you have my vote as the most eligible CM, for I have not seen anyone in SHC with your drive, your passion, your vision to try out new ventures even when support is against you. The badminton group, chess group, the dance activities, dinner events and especially the flea market cum sports event are testimony of someone who really can makes things happen,almost single handedly with only Joy. The Flea market I must stress is a success, and it will be a shame if more of us are not forthcoming to support to make it a bigger yearly event. We should formed a support group and get this event happening, this time I hope all the other groups walking, cycling group will come to support as did the dance and badminton group.
The other good points, you are approachable, accommodating, resourceful not to dependent, to make things happen and be exciting. You are committed even when you were alone. I remember the badminton group days. Now you always have Joy with you no mattter what you do to share your passions.
So Dan as CM with Joy along, SHC can get 2 for one CM.
So Dan maybe you can check with Robert on the next motivating seminar and have a meeting for would be EOs. So with 1 Dan n Joy, and many motivated EOs , SHC can be more colorful, vibrant and bursting with more activites, that may find Terence shuttling between here and Perth?
Cheers
Hi RonaldW #16,
I think you have a brilliant suggestion. Having a meeting on “How to be an EO?”. I guess many of us can organise events, but I also think some of us make events very complicated. Got to go the SilverHairs way.
Anyone got thoughts on this? Or can speak on this?
Terence Seah
I concur with Ron Wie that Dan Huang makes a good CM,
With his dedication, neutrality and impartiality on many difficult occasions.
An unasumming man, no air of aloofness. Dan and Joy will make a good pair as CMs. For behind the success of a calm man, there is a woman.
His untiring spirits and dedication to SHC’s many events bear testimony of his credentials.
As a wise saying goes “Great ability without discretion comes almost invariably to a tragic end”.
My vote for DAN HUANG.
Lee Patrick S J.
Hi guys and gals,
Plse hold your comments on the new Club Manager for now. We should hold comments until the names are in.
So, simply, give us the name of your nominee plse.
I think this time, we will find the elusive club manager.
Terence Seah
With so many excellent testimonies expressed in favour of Dan, there is no question that he is THE ONE for the CM post. He has our full endorsement.
Dan has the interest, the capability and the acceptance of the general SHC community. And he has the zest, the passion, the resilience, the determination and total commitment to the SHC cause. And most importantly, he enjoys what he is doing every minute of it and he will be greatly energised with the undying and loving support of Joy Chuang.
Sincerely yours,
Robert & Kristy
One moment Terence was “Anyone got thoughts on this? Or can speak on this?” and in the next moment, it’s “Plse hold your comments”. Siow liao, tio kong tau liao.
Apparently also siao liao, Robert-Q held no comments but came pouring accolades on Dan-H (who deserves them no less). Me lagi siao, me will add on.
If I can nominate Dan-H as the next prime minstrel, I certainly but ultimately it’s all up to him, really. He will earn a lot as the pee m but he has to discharge his duties even if it deprives him the time to discharge his pee.
So while the nomination of any person can go up, it’s no use if his hand doesnt go up even faster.
Since Siao is in vogue, who’s the next siao kia not to hold his comments?
Hi all,
After hearing so many ppl views and having been with the
club for almost 2 yrs now, here’s my take of what makes a
great (no just good) CM:
1) Regular participation in SHC activities, including being
an EO/EC several times
2) Easily build rapport with the members
3) Have a VISION where to take SHC to over the next 5 yrs
or even farther.
4) Good communication skills to deal with outside
organization viz press, advertisers, political party etc.
5) Ability to lead a team or committee
6) Instill harmony among members and be good moderator for
any dispute among members.
7) Uphold and enforce the club ‘taboos’, or should I say
principles, which is a more appropriate term.
I know there are several members who can fit the bill. So
it would be beneficial to the club if they can come forward
to serve, or at least accept nomination from members.
The club, should in term, allow for some kind or benefits
for these sacrificial ‘lambs’.
If all else fails, the ball will go back to Terence’s court
and he will have to lead tru ‘remote control’.
sincerely,
james
Hi Terence,
My apologies to you for my comments @20. I wrote it without looking at #19. It’s hard to believe but it is true. I didn’t mean to be defiant. Please delete it at your discretion.
Regards,
Robert
Hi Ron, Pat, Tim and Robert,
My head has swollen beyond recognition with all the compliments, kam siah kam siah! Sorry I will not stand up for the position of CM. The task should be taken up by someone who have retired or semi-retird and therefore have the luxury of time and space which I do not.
I cannot afford to retire and still need to work for my ‘bread and butter’. As a church dropout, what I try to do here is to earn some merits to enter heaven!
I feel it will work better if we can have a committee of EOS. This will take a lot of pressure off if there is only one CM. My nomination is James Tan, Lily Ho and Susan Chan who have already contributed their time and efforts for the Club.
Dan
I shall visit you in Perth in 2011….we go fishing together! Cheers.
Hi RobertQ #23,
Deletion not necessary. Well, I was hoping for all nominations to come in first.
Am glad it is moving along. I guess the promptings from TimL helps too.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence!
Since all activities are organized and led by EOs, my 2 cents’ worth is that having an EC (Executive Committee) comprising of a team of active EOs makes a lot of sense.
Within the EOs they can vote for a Chairman a.k.a. Club Manager.
Just a suggestion….:p
Cheers
Ros
Terence, doe i noe u said comments hold on 1st but den i must write these b4 i m bck 2 haikou again. like dat, no tx liao, so pls pardon me hor..
Aiyo, James, what kind of benefits r u referring 2 har.. all these while, every1 noe SHC is a free membership club so where got $$$$ leh.. n sure dat most of us dun wish 2 change tis practice, including me lor.. If tis culture of SHC is being changed, i think hor, many will mia liao maybe including me lor.. so mai change ok.. Terence.
Cheers.. Dolly
Hi Dolly #28,
Good to hear from you. I thought you have disappeared on Hainan island. We have to pretend to miss you, as we are still getting the same singlish hokien from Sam.
It’s perfectly fine to comment on the position, role and work of the new Club Manager.What is hope is not to support any nominee with comments yet, until the names are in. This is to encourage other members to submit their nominations.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence
When you asked for nominations, I had some names in mind. I held back because I am not sure if I will get shot by the nominees.
I have also been thinking if there could be a change like having a committee perhaps like what Rosalind suggested @ 27 and the nominees that I have in mind concur with RonWIe @ 16. It does help to have another member discuss and help to carry out the task/s.
As I am not to comment on my nominees, I shall just go ahead and name them.
Dan & Joy (sorry Dan, even tho, you have said no)
Susan Chan & Jeffrey Lim
oicheng
Hi Oi Cheng,
I was told to relay this message,
‘Yup, keep plugging this same message to whoever tries to convince you, or persuade you, or bribe you, or sweet talk you, or flatter you, or threaten you (ha ha) into taking up this role.
Let’s keep it to adhoc events where there is no pressure to deliver. We do as and when we feel like it. People will be more appreciative because we give when they do not expect it.
As the CM, there will be expectations, comparisons, comments, complaints, etc. And you need to invest your time, energy, money, resources, etc.
We provide the bonus. CM has to provide the salary.
We provide the gravy. CM has to provide the rice.
We provide the garlic spread. CM has to provide the bread and butter.
We provide the cinnamon powder. CM has to provide the coffee/tea/cocoa.
We provide the topping. CM has to provide the yoghurt.
See how much better it is to be doing what we are currently doing!
Dan
Well said Dan, it is sure tough to be CM.
Anyway, it is just nominees, you are free to reject.
And yes, I agree, since you enjoy what you are currently doing, there is no sense in changing.
oicheng
James at #22 has listed conditions that someone, if there is one amongst us, can actually be nominated for the post of the PM or at least the President of Spore.It also may scare off any nominee, even one as experienced as Dan.
Dan, actually you should consider taking up this challenge at least for a year. I am sure Terence accept someone as genuine as you with following conditions:-
a. He need answer to be responsible to anyone, no matter what happens in the club, as long as he organises activities in a honest, warmth and with passion.
b. As no members are paying any dues, and as all of us are matured individual above 45, responsible enough to get married again in they want too or to bear children if we can, so they should be responsible to make themselves happy if they join any activities.
c. The CM can be just an initiator, and requires many members who are passionate to not only join activities but help to volunteer as EOs or Co-EOs, or to help out in any way.
d. All the conditions laid out by James should not only be something that only the CM should have, but all members as well, (try to be at least in all SHC functions) to the best of their ability, in their lifetime.
Terence as agreed that more EOs should come forward to organise activites, then the way is for the CM to be the supporter and not necessary the one taking the brunt of running new acitivities.
The new CM should be one who offer guidance, advise, resources, experience and help the potential EOs tie up with other members with similar interest to make their event, not necessary a big success but a continuing activity for those with similar interests.
The emphasis is not making any CM or EO answerable to anyone, but the members who join in any activity, not only to participate but make the event enjoyable for all ( not only their select group or friends).
If we continue to adopt such a policy, then I think more people would be willing to come forward to be EOs to organise events of their own interest.
So Dan, you can take this role of CM redefining the role of the next CM making it one that is not that demanding and one that someone at our age can accept.
Cheers
The way I see it. Dan has spoken and we should, in due respect to him, let the matter rest. I find the present SHC set-up is structurelly sound. We have the founder, Terence, who has been setting the direction of SHC and playing the role of CM, assisted by the administrator/s in maintaining the website. In this setting, SHC has evolved naturally with many members spontaneously volunteering as EOs and ECs, including myself. As a result, SHC is today a very active social network system benefitting many members who have formed an identity with it. To borrow a parlance in the sporting community, “We should not change a winning team!”. If I am not mistaken, Terence and a few other members, have stated that they are happy with the SHC structure as it is. I too hold this view. Terence, being the founder, could continue to play the role of Founder CM in overseeing and mentoring from afar without being physically present. After all, he is only a button away from all of us with the help of modern technology.
Sincerely yours,
Robert
It’s a wonder how SHCians have developed SilverHairsClub to what it is today. And, Robert, you identified a SHC set-up, when in fact, SHC was designed to be without a structure. I remembered years ago, there was a washing machine designed with “fuzzy logic”. I think SHC is just like that, someone thinks of something, and the machine then starts washing, spinning, drying and washing.
Robert, at this stage, I like to tap your experience with this question “how do you see the new Club Manager setting a new direction for SHC?” Agree with Robert about not changing a winning team, but how do you bringing about new directions. for example, retirement issues, CARE issues, supermarket savings, etc. etc.
I love being excited.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence,
The proof in the pudding is in the eating. SHC, as testified by you, has grown to what it is today. This is due to your good and effective leadership, the quality of our members and the spontaneous and voluntary approach, so is there a need to change when it is not broken?
SHC has a structure by virtue of the fact that it has a CM, Administrator/s, EOs & ECs and the general membership.A structure can be a tight or a loose one or it can be a complex or simple one.
Many of our members are neither silver-haired nor retired.Their age composition can be grouped into 3 clusters – 45-64 age group, 65-74 age group and 75 and above age group, each with its own corresponding needs and concerns, so the activbities organised should be age-specific and age-appropriate.
You mention about bringing new direction to the Club and how to address the areas of concern specified by you. We bring change and a new direction only when there is a need for it. In problem solving, we use the following steps:
1) Identify the problem, 2) Identify the cause/s of the problem, 3) generate the possible solutions through the process of brain-storming, 4) rank the solutions and 5) choose the best solutions.
We can use our monthly gatherings for our brain-storming sessions. Anyone can be an EO of such sessions which should be spontaneous and voluntary.
Personally, I have observed two areas of concern:
1) How to retain existing members and not lose them.
2) How to nib in the bud all communicative and relationship problems that are brewing.
I hope my contribution in throwing up some of my ideas and observations is of some help to you, Terence.
May SHC grow from strength to strength.
With warm regards,
Robert
Robert-Q, your #36 is a carefully considered and thought-thru piece, thank you.
I have one recommendation to make : KK Loh, the faithful shuttlecock-master with his regular no-nonsense 2-sentence invite to badminton. Straight, suave, good-looking, easy-going, committed, non smoker, non-womaniser, non-maverick and very organised, he is also a natural who needs no typecast for any role.
A good chap but his interest and time might only be in badminton and for his family and friends. So sad.
While we turn every stone and search the trees/wardrobes for this elusive CM, we must not for a moment forget our unsung hero Loh Yew Kwong who quietly and stoically mans and troubleshoots IT related problems in this forum. Kudos to you, YK.
The way I see it, YK’s role is pivotal. As there’s no physical club – in premises or otherwise – to manage, the CM’s role is probably as a conduit in coordinating with the EO and the members, as and when an event is in the offing, and acts as the moderator (which is also well-played by Terence).
To my mind, therefore, if there’s no “suitable” CM in contention, we may just let it be. No matter how far Terence is, he’s only 1 finger away from the keyboard to stay in touch and take charge……his 7 fingers free to finger who he wants and the balance middle-fingers taut and pointing.
Hi Robert @# 36
There are advantages in activities targeted at a specific group. Your three clusters is one way of grouping the SHC population. But I think it’s not easy to plan based on age group becos to many, age is a digit. How if a 75-yr oldster feels he/she is a 45-yr youngster? lol!
An easier grouping (vis-a-vis planning activities)could be based on two broad categories: working full time and not working/working part-time/freelance
Activities planned for the second group could be held on a weekday, during office hrs, to take advantage of the ‘off-peak’ perks. But then again members from the working group could take leave and join the activities…..hmmm shang-1 nao-3 jing-1.
Robert, you are aware of the problem-solving process; so am I, but the skills lie in the ability to apply the process. These are life skills (akin to teaching a person to fish)and worthwhile acquiring. Towards this end, I’m hoping you could (if u have the time), hold a workshop on problem-solving skills, taking participants through the 5-step process. We can use contemporary issues eg. retirement issues for the ‘workout’.
Hope Terence is feeling excited now :)
Hi Jassmine,
I am glad you agree that there are advantages in activities targeted at a specific age group. Of course this is only one of the ways. Thank you for suggesting another way. However, no single way is perfect. There are always inherent problems and challenges. Perhaps, both of us have opened the gate for others to propose other ways. The idea is for those in leadership role to consider them and choose them as they see fit.
My suggestion for age-specific activities is not meant to be strictly implemented. If an older member is young at heart, he/she is always welcome to join any activity organised for the younger age group. In other words, the Club should consider activities which are well distributed among the different age groups.
Thank you for suggesting that I organise a workshop on problem-solving. I did not claim that I am an expert in it. I only responded to Terence who wanted to hear my opinion and ideas. I do not intend to go beyond that.
I would like to reiterate that services should be spontaneous and voluntary and not coerced. I wish to close the matter. Thank you.
With loving kindness,
Robert
Hi Robert @# 39,
My apologies. Had thought you kena run life skills workshops for your former students.
Hope there’s someone in the club with the experience and the time to share…:)
CHEEERS,
No problem Jassmine. Hope you can join us on Sunday.
Have a nice day.
Cheers,
Hi Terence
As an inactive member, I think I am not qualified to comment in this topic, But as a very old (long time) SHC member, I think I have the responsibility to say something.
If you ask me what is the most important requirement of a CM, I will say the support from the SHC members. I think there are at least 90% of SHC members support you, so no matter what you plan, they can be achieved
If you ask me who else in SHC have more than 50% members support, there is only one name in my mind – Yew Kwong, the big brother of most of SHC members, most of the gals and guy like him. “Rain or shine, we will definitely be there” is his slogan, and he can really achieve it. So if you ask me to nominate or vote for one person, the person sure is Yew Kwong.
But I don’t think a standalone CM is a good idea, even Yew Kwong accept the nomination and elected to be the CM, he will face a mountain of tough work, and his work will be ????, ?????.
I support Rosalind Lee’s proposal in C#27 – “having an EC (Executive Committee) comprising of a team of active EOs makes a lot of sense”. With the EC idea, all the existing EOs will become the members of the committee automatically (if they are willing). Then they can work together with you to plan the structure of the EC, recruit (select, or nomonate/vote) new committee members if require, choose the chairman.
After that, the EC can start to plan the calendar of events for year 2011, select and assign EOs for the events (the EO may or may not be the committee members).
The EOs have the full responsibility and authority of their event, the EC can provide assistance but not intervention
With this idea, I consider the change is limited, and hope can have a smooth transition – you are replaced by the EC.
Sorry for busy bog, for you consideration
Hi Terence,
Was shock to see my name mentioned despite having attend SHC gathering twice only.
Thanks for the invitation, count me out as I don’t think I am capable for such task.
I just continue booking for badminton only.
Hi Andrew Yeung
If CM stands for Club Manager, it is definitely a no no. I will gladly accept without hestitation if it means Cycling Man.
Deeply appreciate your regards and thank you for your nomination.
Hi Terence
SHC is never lack of capable people to run the show. It just takes bit of time to find a willing person to lift up his/her hand.
Perhaps I take this opportunity to nominate some names besides those already mentioned.
1) Charles Chua, 2) Molly Chua, 3) Sam Goh & 4) Lee Ah Nee.
These members have been involved in many wonderful activities and m sure their names have not gone unnoticed.
Hi Terence,
Allow me to reiterate that I shall be glad to assist any Events Organiser to induct Newbies at Monthly Gatherings, but to stand as nominee of a Club Manager, certainly this major role does not apply to me. Owing to my current deskbound job and my impromptu overseas trips, doubt I have the time, as this role do require someone armed with great dedication in hosting continuous events, one who possess good vision and PR skills, infinitely wise to entice more members to step forward and actively participate in SHC events.
Could I request you to delete my name as a Nominee, leaving Dan Huang as the most eligible CM Designate. Alternatively, do consider Rosalind’s suggestion highlighted in #27 as its definitely worth more than 2 cts!
Thank you for having the faith in me, but I’m not ready to take up the Challenge yet!
Cheers,
Hi Terence,
Robert with his RICH group experience and his wealth of teaching experience certainly is one member whom we should consider as CM. He has been organising many acitivies such the MacRitchie walks, the Motivation seminars and many other activities for the Bishanites, for a couple of years.
He has also shown not only passion, vision, but also patience, modesty and readiness to accept views from one and all, qualities of a good leader. Together with Kristy a balance view for both sexes would certainly be covered.
So they have my vote too.
Cheers
Wei Wei Yew Kwong….thank you for your compliment. This nomination of CM is like playing a game….. (Musical chair; passing parcel….) you nominate me, I nominate you; and it goes on………hehehe…for me is a definite NO!
Lately I “kenah” roped in by Michael Tan to do the community work, sitting in as dance club committee member & CCMC (management committee) at Kovan CC. I am still fully employed; therefore, I have very little time left.
I hope others will raise their hand to take up this challenge. Certainly, I will give my full support on events organized by our capable members (all the EOs) if I am free to attend. As my passion is cycling and dancing, I will continue to do my best / offer to help for these 2 events along the way… :)
Ah Nee
Hi Yew Kwong
CM = Cycling Man, ha ha
How about two more, Computer Man and ….Crazy Man (part time)- this one joking only
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Dear All,
Like Andrew, I support Rosalind Lee’s proposal in C#27 of having a team of active EOs to form a committee and from there and nominate a CM who is willing to take up the post. It is also less stressful for the new CM knowing that he/she can rely on this group of people to help him/her when help is needed. There’s no learning curve reqd as the selected CM would already know the rules & guidelines of SHC. Just my 2-cents opinion. Rgds, Lisa O.
Guess, we have to think harder. From your feedback, we now have some nominations for Club Manager. Some nominees have already turned down the position.
The idea of a committee has been raised a few times. Well, if we go this direction, we still should look out for someone to cordinate this committee. I think that after all our years working corporate life, SilverHairs must have alot of experience dealing with committees.
Let’s keep hunting. Look around you and see if you can talk someone into accepting the role of Club Maanger.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence
Indeed Coordinator is the most important role to lead SHC to another height. This person should not just organize monthly meetings but to synchronize all the activities organized by different EOs. with the help of the committee/sub committee He/she does not need to spend too much time keeping the club running (hence more members will be willing to take up the challenge).
Following are some categories of the activities (each to be led by 1-2 committee members):
– sport/outing (cycling, bowling, badminton,golf)
– overseas traveling
– leisure group (dancing, game, movies,potluck)
– educational talk/seminar/self improvement
– cooking/gardening/handicraft
– charity works/visits
– ad hoc (bazaar,flea mart, D&D)
– external affairs/PR (retain/recruit new members, dealing with media, government’s senior citizen related matters etc)
Since you know SHC members very well, how about if you nominate their names (after getting their approval) then present their profiles for us to vote?
Our search for a new Club Manager has not been very successful. We have nominations; and our nominees have turned down the nominations.
Shy? No time? Or want to, but afraid of no support?
Any more nominations? It is also important that to be effective, the Club Manager must also put up his/her hand. Let’s give it another few more go’s before the end of June.
Terence Seah
Some activities are indeed very popular. Makan and travel probably top the list of activities among SilverHairs. So, no shortage of EOs for these two types of events.
Walking and Cycling events are regular events, and the EOs are indeed very dedicated and have been around for a few years. Pretty independent groups.
Golf games, charity bits, and the adhoc, well we have some who come up once in a while to lead these activites.
Then, there are the private groups – mahjong, dancing, movies. Small groups with new found friends.
Seems like our hunt for a Club Manager is not moving ahead. Let’s give ourselves until end June.
Terence Seah
Well, we have reached the deadline on a serious issue; and that is to get a new Club Manager. From the feedback, it looks like we are not moving anywhere ahead on a decision.
I guess the ball is back on my court. This also means I wont keep hunting for one. Instead of you and me knocking on our heads, I have decided on a status quo situation. You just have to bear with me, whether I am in Singapore, Australia, Thailand, India or Vietnam.
However, this does not mean that we cannot have new wonderful ideas, crazy suggestions or half-baked stories. In fact, I would be more receptive. Very likely, you just have to put your thoughts here. Avoid sending me emails or telephone calls or sms.
You can be sure I will continue not to entertain discussions on sex, politics, religion, race, direct selling and MLM on forum and in this club.
Sorry guys and gals, I have decided on this decision to avoid holding onto this topic on and on.
Terence Seah