Yunnan destination, dates and deliberations

Thus far 2 small groups have been to yunnan this year. Below is a simple write up by Victor Wee, his thoughts on the trip for those who need to know abit about Yunnan and wish to join future trips. There should be another one in October 2009. If you wish to go, please email me so that we can keep you informed which is better than referring to the posting.

There are some inquiries regarding doing volunteer work, teaching life skills, english or even doing simple, non competitive and non-stressful golden age business so as to have something to indulge in traveling. Again please email me at ethniceast@gmail.com if i do not yet have your email address.  

Another thought floating around is the idea of short term stay and retreat living in "eternal spring Yunnan" where everyday is spring. There should be a link below where you can sight some of the photos, till we hear from you……emoticon

About Our Trip………….

Yunnan is situated on a plateau and surrounded by mountains mainly. The temperature during summer is about 24 Deg C and 5 Deg C in winter. It does not snow in the region, nevertheless the mountains would be snow capped. The climate is comfortable enough in summer seldom above 27 Deg C. The region is at an altitude of 1200 to 3000+ m above sea level from Kunming to Zhongdian (Shangri-La).

Return airfare from Singapore to Kunming ranges from $600 to $900 depending on whether high or low seasons and Airline companies. The very low fare of $382 is more a bonus. Taxi fare within the city starts at 8Yuan.  On average to places we frequent it ranges from   15 – 20Yuan. Public buses are very affordable at 1Yuan (we had not tried).

Inter-cities coaches cost about $25 and are very comfortable. The toilets at the pit stop needs getting use to. Interstate train travel on first class sleeper is about $35 and comfortable. The toilet on board is good enough but will need a bit of balancing act and squatting skills. The road and rail network are impressive considering this being a less developed area.

Meat and vegetables are readily available. Fish and prawns are the freshwater types with limited variety. This is not the place for seafood lovers. Vegetables are always fresh and plentiful. Wild mushrooms are wonderful, great for steam boat, but need to wait till raining seasons. Eating out and socializing is a must even for work and business.

The food prepared here are from what’s available in the markets.  You can have your meal from the roadside stall at about 3 Yuan or 20 Yuan at restaurants. Food is generally stir fried and is swimming in oil.  The oil used is rapeseed oil (not the best but I supposed it suites them well). Beer is at 3.50 Yuan per bottle. Rice noodle is a more common staple than grain rice. Beef is plentiful and appears to be the predominant meat next to pork. In the old part of Dali and Lijiang, dinning by the waterway is most interesting by day and night.

Serviced apartments in Kunming cost $50 per night .The comfort level is like 4 star.

Living in court yard inns in the old city of Dali and Lijiang cost $25 per night and was indeed a memorable experience.

There are plentiful shopping areas. In Kunming, the shopping facilities are like Home.

In Dali and Lijiang old town, the shopping is a world of its own where merchandise are sold in preserved ancient shop houses. Window shopping is also satisfying if you have no more money left. Leather (Ox or Yak leather) goods are indeed worth buying (ask the ladies on the trip). Bright spectrum of colors of the merchandise reflects the many ethnic groups of the region. Lijiang is very crowded on all days.  The crowd is like that of our Chinatown, and during holiday period, like Disneyland theme park. Dali is like Lijiang but a smaller scale and less crowded

Not much to say here except that TCM facilities and pharmacies are readily available.

Farming is all around and your waste would be put to good use.

Trekking will leave you no time for anything else.

Photography will run you out of memory space.

Language will keep your tongue twisted with the countless dialects. There are 25 ethnic nationalities here in Yunnan. Even yunnanese is a dialect in China.

Foodies will be well lubricated at toilet breaks sometimes overly. Need getting used to it and according to the season of the year. Every other taste here needs to be acquired.

In Lijiang visit the Jade Dragon Snow Mountain Region and enjoy the fresh mountain air.

Watch the ever popular cultural show at the foothills and explore the region on horseback.

In Dali try the chairlift up the Cangshan mountains ridge.

In Kunming visit the Minority Village and be prepared to spend half a day. The Stone Forest region and Jiu Xiang (Stone Cave) will take a full day.

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Author: Feztus lim

I do community development projects, organise trips to Thailand's biggest organic farm and also simple business platforms in Yunnan China and north Thailand.

39 thoughts on “Yunnan destination, dates and deliberations”

  1. Photos for trips in March and July 2009 uploaded.

    Please do a search on Yunnan and scroll to the bottom of the post dated 29 Jul 09 for the link.

    Happy viewing!

  2. Oi Cheng, thanks for uploading the photos.
    Just in case you are not aware, many photos were missing from the lot that i gave you. And it seems that you and another chap from SHC like to change the way you spell my name. I hope you all are not trying to be naughty.

    Btw, i am not the photographer, they are photos from the group members’ camera who went and took. There are really alot of shots in total, we will definitely email some more relevant ones to those who are keen to go and have questions that we can answer with photos.

  3. Hi Feztus

    I checked through all the batches of photos and note that all are uploaded. On closer scrutiny, I found that your 4th email which subject says batch 4 of 38 photos, only 3 photos were attached. I have forwarded it to you so you can tell which are the 34 missing. Try not to attach too many in one email.

    I will upload when I receive them and at the same time amend the typo error on your name. My sincere apologies.

    Oi Cheng

  4. Thank You!
    Fez..for giving us the apportunity to see Yunnan & putting up with our many..blah blah!..ssshhh!..hee
    Victor for writing the ‘composition’so comprehensively
    Kenneth..for being our ‘father’ figure!..sori sometime we v naughty!

    OiCheng,terima kaseh for reuploading the many & colourful photos!
    We actually had more than 200 shots!..so excited everytime,everywhere also want to take…hehe

    Wah!..it brought back our fond memories..felt like only yesterday..

    Girls..remember we learned lots of their local english words & phrases?..we laughed till tummy ache,jahat la we all

    AhNee..at the foot of Lijiang Snow mountain..your oxygen tank sudah habis is it?..nx time carry more hor..
    Gingko..u look like a demure Aminah..v cantek
    Sue,Kenneth & me..waiting to shoot a movie in the mountains behind!…so beautiful background!..its very clean fresh & cool air made us din want to balek la…

    Sockie..
    We not bad hor…can be cameragirl or not?…we took & direct all photo shoots u know….without malu..we always asked passersby to snap!snap!…after that..they usually ran away..scared of us!…hehe..

    I love Lijiang Impressions show, the best!..so spectacular!must not missed it whoever plan to visit
    Dali guest house so peaceful & v shiok to sleep..cos of its cool environment..
    not forgetting the numerous shopping!..aiyo! alamak!..its so cheap…wish i could drag a wagon!

    Must ‘warn’ to potential trippers…when u travel in buses to next town everytime..pls don drink or eat too much..if not…toilet a little susah hor…hee

    Steven@2
    Well…after enjoying & seeing the scenic places..we forgot all the hiccups & shakes la…:)

  5. Nor,

    So FUN to travel together…..about the Toilet, so susah lah, no door wan and then we have to Q on that miserable only one that is “clean” cubicle. Susan no.1, I no.2, Gingko no.3 & you last and u see all, heheheeee…..you keep saying “aiyo mati lah….mati lah” susah lah..apa macam, no door wan…..”Surface is dangerous,,,,please not close to”, China english lor and it’s happen only in CHINA! hahaha….

    Not forgetting the soothing Yunnan music played in the van while on the way up the mountain….sounds like norlinda linda…linda…linda, so nice song, I bought the CD for 15 yuan.

    We had so much FUN at the SPA centre, dipped in the hot spring pool & hopped from one pool to another…..throwing water ball at each other…….yo….from 3.00 pm to 9.00 pm, including dinner…….for only 154 yuan. :)

    Ah Nee

  6. Ha.ha… Nor, Ah Nee looked as if she really needed oxygen tank. Yeap, I do miss the cold fresh air at Lijiang Snow Mt. But guess we brought sunshine to Yunnan while there… cos compared with the March group, the way they wore & ours was so different. Dhevi, Charles, Tian Soo & the rest looked freezing cold while ours was so terrible hot during the day.

    Fez, typo error : shld be 26 tribes in Yunnan, rite? (not including the Singapore Tribe of cos..ha.ha.)
    Erh….also the translation on the signage about the massage is funny. Where huh?

  7. Susan,

    Where is your photo on that signage “nan zhao” silver store. hehehee….

    You all so bad wan….Kenneth & Nor chopped the left side of the huge rock and Susan & Gingko chopped the right side, then I have no place to pose mah, so I sat down on the rock lor….searching my mini oxgen tank…..heheheee

    Ah Nee

  8. I can’t resist asking how you use the toilets. If there are no doors, and you squat down, the scene must be pretty exciting to passer-bys. Do you face the entrance or the back wall?

    I can imagine each of you holding a doublespread newspaper while doing the job. But seriously, how do the locals do their job? Or they just don’t bother who walks infront of them.

    Terence Seah

  9. Terence,

    Tell you how we used the “no door” toilet. Our back-side faced Norlinda lor…..later Nor said to me; “who said Teochew ‘nan’, ‘kah cng’ ‘ang ang'”, your ‘kah cng’ where got ‘ang ang’. So hilarious……even Kenneth, who is taking care of our haver-sack, standing outside the toilet, could hear our loud commotion. The locals there are so used to it, they must be wondering why these 4 gals from the ‘mountain’, making so much noise…….hahaha….can’t stop laughing, what an experience!

    Ah Nee

  10. “Terence, Tell you how we used…..Our back-side faced Norlinda…..later……kah cng’ Kenneth, who is taking care of our……..toilet…….hahaha….can’t stop laughing, what an experience!”

    Yes, it was definitely a very memorable experience for you but I wonder what kah cng Kenneth has to say after taking yr butt in his face and why, of all things he cd do a lot better, he chose to take care of yr toilet?

  11. So colorful and cheerful – our UNIQUE tribe.
    The 4 beauties and their Majesty.
    The line dance cultural exchange at the Square
    The eCo Farm expert and the organic produce.
    The stench as well as cool mountain fresh air.
    Yunnan – looks like one of the choice retirement.

  12. Terence..
    U so interested in the toilet job ah?…v funny u know..hee
    u cud never imagine how amusing!

    While we were Q-ing, was wondering who’s that girl in front..so slow(must be v urgent!), cepat lah..then when she face the front..its Sue!…haha..couldnt recognise the back mah!..cute rite!
    when my turn…i rub lots of those oitment(tiger balm?)took from ahnee…so that the ‘aroma’ not so susah la…

    so..nx time better bring umbrella for cover hor!
    The locals dont care..they just squat & face front..still got time to gaze at our behaviour!..u know, they not malu..but we all dare not even to look around!

    Now lets hear from the guys..
    & the 1st group…say something la…we din visit the eco farm le..tell us

    Sue/Ahnee tom we all going Padang…sure gila again!

  13. Nor #6 & #14

    Yo looks like you gals and guys had a great time ya. I am sure there are more photos taken then those posted…knowing Nor…she will go….this very chantek and that very chantek hahahahaha.

    I went for a tour in Yunnan many years back and th toilet saga had always been a funny issues. First time we had to do our nature calls in the wild and we formed a circle facing outwards. Yes and there were the medicated oil remedy and backside facing out strategies but we had a great laugh when one of the lady traveller did that because she was so fat and we could see the big round ‘full moon’ …I never forget that incident, was sooo tempted to take a pic but decided outherwise kekekekekek

    Sockie

  14. I have to assume that these loos arent mere holes in the ground but with walls, only the door is missing.

    If this is the case, then it’s funny why our gals musst take the potion of either facing in or facing out in the squat?

    Whichever of these 2 positions she puts herself in, some parts of her which she sso dearly wants to protect will be seeen.

    Isnt it easy to squat and face one of the 2 side-walls, with the thigh shielding what she doesnt want people to see………for free?

    Last but not least, the tampon is more useful that for one purpose…………………

  15. Terrence @ #10 & Tim @ #16

    Hmmm, the public toilets are generating a lot of interest here ;-)

    Yeap, the four of us caused quite a stir at our first public toilet stopover. The squealing “Eweeeek’s” and “banyak susah, mati lah” could be heard all over the bus station.

    Let me try to give a clearer description, but please note this is not for the weak stomachs… mine’s already queasy just recollecting.

    Frankly, the gals didn’t have a choice. Unlike the toilets out here, which is usually a toilet bowl or squatting pan, those that we came across were mostly “latrines”. In other words, they were small drains, about 2’Lx8W”x6”D , some built with the long end facing the entrance and the other end against the cubicle back wall. The side walls are low, about 5’ high.

    To use the “toilet”, one has to climb up 2-3 steps into the tiny cubicle and spread one’s legs over the drain. So it was a lot easier (and definitely most modest ;-) ) to stay in that position when one entered the cubicle, rather than making a complete half turn to face the front again, bearing in mind all around was wet, slippery, filthy and stinky. Forget newspapers or umbrellas. Even to roll up or roll down one’s pants was a chore, what more having to maintain balance not to stumble into the latrine… Yuks! It was awful.

    Moreover, the flushes did not seem to work properly, so there were heaps & heaps of unsightly “leftovers” greeting us here, there & everywhere. Very revolting.

    Despite the shocking encounter, we survived it all. Looking back, it’s really hilarious that we had behaved and reacted so hysterically.

    This is the China way! Guess when you are in Rome, do as the Romans do.

    Well folks, I have to rush off now. Will make time to write a little later about my experience and maiden trip to China to share with would-be SHC member-travellers who are planning to visit Yunnan.

    Enjoy the weekend…

  16. Looks like some gentlemen are very curious about China’s ‘iconic’ toilets without doors and trying hard to visualize them…esp when the toilet is occupied!.

    Let me give your imagination a boost…

    1. The toilet (lavatory)is separate for male and female.
    2. In the female toilet, against a wall, there are usually 4 – 6 cubicles, with low wall partitions. These cubicles have no doors.
    3. A long drain/trough runs the length of the cubicles, at right angle to the low walls.
    4. A toilet user carefully straddles the drain, undo her clothes, and squats, facing the partition wall.
    5. Because the partition walls are low (about waist high), all the toilet users, when standing, are visible to one another.
    6. The user who is squatting in her cubicle, is visible to her immediate neighbours at both ends when they stand.
    7. All users squatting in their cubicles are visible to a person looking for a vacant cubicle (becos there are no doors).
    8. The cubicles are often dark, filthy and stinking and a user must be careful not to step into the drain!

    There are variants but the toilet type described above is common. Ok, any questions? lol!

  17. Hi all,

    The bathroom issue in China is one thing I just can’t…….I am realistic to know what’s it’s like up there which is why I have to be absoultely sure what I’m getting into!!

    That said, I had the awful experience exactly what Gingko (very graphic but true) said plus Jassmine’s comment. Gosh, I still remember!!!

    This is my main concern going there. Surprisingly, it was so clean in Cambodia………except the light goes off but really clean.

  18. Now that we are having this education on china public toilets, I might as well mention that even for the guys going to the public toilets and on the train for “big” business is quite a feat. Most of us haven’t squat for years and it can be a very tricky business trying the keep the balancing act. But in this way, if successfully done, it really clears up the mess and feels cleaner and cleansed!
    Those of you who need actual photos of the public toilet may email group for one, I just didn’t want to post it up here.

    But objectively, this is how it is like with the public toilets. which maybe only few times on the 8 days trip. Most of the time we use our hotel toilets, Mcdonald’s and some cafe’s toilets. You can read from the way we have decribed to you, you will realised we are not traumatized by it. It is the local chinese that are most shocked at our reactions than our reactions to their way of using public toilets! Just do as the Romans do. If you don’t use it, you will have no stories to tell your children and grand children! Not to worry, we will advise those going how to use public toilets when you are there.

    Again, those keen to go this year either october, november or december, be sure to email me so that we can set it up. There are lots of beautiful sceneries, things to do and shop and other indulgences in Yunnan that will make your trip; maiden or otherwise, more unique and colorful.

  19. Hi Feztus,

    I see you are thinking of more trips in Oct and Nov. What kind of expected temperatures will you see at this time. I believe you spent many months in Yunnan. Are there are other Singaporeans who spend many months there for business or just relaxation and medical treatment?

    Do you use the max 3 months visa, that is given to you on arrival at the airport. And can you and how do you extend the 3 month visa, and stay for another 3 months.

    Terence Seah

  20. Hi to all would be travellers to PRC,

    Perhaps I should add my 2 cts to this toilet discussion.

    My first trip to Yunnan last March (I think), with Fez and others, I had the ‘runs’ on the second night in the organic farm. I was quite puzzled, even now, as I did not eat anything ‘off’. Also all of us ate the same food. Till today I cannot figure out the cause of the ‘runs’. Perhaps it was the cold as Fez had suggested, but I am not sure.

    One Sgp lady who runs an olive farm with her husband in Yunnan, had said it might be the water, but all of us drank quite similarly too.

    That night I had to use the ‘squatting’ toilet 7x. Poor Fez woke up and was wondering why I was visiting the toilet so many times. I took my lomotil and charcoal tablets (don’t leave home without it) but despite the medication, felt it took too long to clear. Fortunately it had cleared up by the next morning and I felt ‘rejuvenated’ the next day.

    My point is to travel in PRC you have to be fit to squat (as if there is such a criteria). If not tone up your muscles with 12 knee bends everyday. It is not difficult. There is no disbenefit with 12 knee bends everyday.
    motivate yourself by thinking what will happen if you ‘fall backwards’ while squatting!

    I don’t think it is necessary to warn of the pitfalls of stepping into the hole/canal because of a weak knee.

    Also while it may be amusing to some of us to shriek and make loud exclaimations about the architecture and construction of PRC toilets, let us also remember the feelings of our PRC bros and sis. If you were visiting the toilet of a friend or relative in PRC, how do you think they will feel if we went about shrieking in their toilets, taking photos and making snide remarks.

    Given our better or more fortunate state we are in, I think we can be more gracious. They may not understand what we say but they will know.

    Lastly for those of you thinking of travelling the Silk Route in PRC, don’t. If you think the toilets cannot be worse, you are wrong. Don’t ask me to elaborate, just trust me, unimaginable as it is, it is. But I have never complained, perhaps to share my experience, but not a complaint.

    Fez, I am still interested in revisiting Dali, Lijiang, Zhong Dian and other places you can recommend. Inshallah I will be at peace by Oct to travel.

    Anybody know any arsehole jokes? Here’s one. Some doctors were talking about their patients and how easy and difficult some patients were.

    The first said his best patients were all accountants. Why? Because when you cut them up, everything, all the organs and intestines are orderly and balanced.

    Another said he preffered electricians because all the organs were colour coded and neatly cleated up.

    The third doctor said politicians were the best. Why? Because when you cut them up, there’s nothing inside there, no guts, no stomach, no balls, no gall, nothing, except for the mouth and the arsehole. And you know what, he added, they’re interchangeable!

    Cheers

  21. there is certainly going to be a October trip and this month is best to go to zhongdian (Shangrila) otherwise by Nov and Dec it will be too cold. So best to sign up for October if you want to see Shangrila.

    But there are few individuals asking about going in November and December, so i want to know who else in interested to go when this year. Even for a small group, we can still set it up.

    November is the beginning of winter so daytime temperature will be around 17 Deg C and night time will be around 12 Deg C. In December, the daytime will be 15 Deg C and the night time will be around 5 Deg C. Not too cold still. But only in December and after then can you so and play snow on the Jade Snow Mountain in Lijiang. By then the water pipes in Zhongdian (Shangrila) would be have frozen. So you can save on bathing, no water and too cold. Best for dry cleaning.

    But Kunming will still be cool and colder spring, just nice.
    In the colder months, detox frequencies will be more often and they usually comes with steam. Just hope that they don’t drop out as ice cubes. Actually winter is more fun, you will surely come back with rosier checks once you leave Kunming. Roadside satays also taste better during winter. Not to mention hotspring spa will be heavenly!

  22. Hi guys!!

    Having been to Yunnan, I can say that it is a great destination for those who have seen the Beiqing and Quilin aspects of China.

    Yunnan has wonderful scenery, a multitude of colourful ethnic groups, a rich culture of old cities and lots of interesting activities from mountain trekking to lazy spa hotsprings.

    The best times to be in northern Yunnan is October (as Feztus suggested) and also March/April during the spring period.

    I believe you will need at least 2 weeks to see most of the places talked about. The Jade Snow Mountain, Shangrila and Tiger Leaping Gorge would need about two whole days each. Dali and Lijiang can easily take 4 days each to fully absorb the charm of the place.

    If you like cities, then Kunming comes close as a choice for its shopping, street markets, clean quiet electric bikes which sneak up on you, and modern livable amenities without the push and crush of the main China cities.

    Charles #28: I, too, was plagued by an embarassing “runs” which fortunately stopped after the first incident and thankfully did not ruin the rest of the day for me or the others in my group. So much so that Victor commented that I should post something on packing tips for the trip! Suffice to say that we should pack an extra pair of pants and underwear for any day trip!

    Your other comment on doing knee bends as an excercise also leads me to caution that you should not do “full” knee bends as this will lead to further pain and joint degeneration if you have knee problems already. I suggest doing only half knee bends (like in the 312 Chinese excercise) or some simple stretching squats not repetitive bends.

    Yes, the open-plan toilets in China would pose a problem for many Singaporeans especially women. But we can prepare for them… put on perfume, practice squatting and balancing without touching the walls while eating “chou tow foo” in Geylang!

  23. Hi Kenneth,

    You see no ball eh. Your posting is only #25 and you’re referring to my posting @28!!!

    But I am interested to know how you think you got the runs? Have you any idea? I am still puzzled. It can be a case of the chills as it was relatively warm when you were there.

    About the knee bends, if you do only half, how are you going into a fully squat position and how are you going to stand, unaided, when you are squatting? Luckily I did not suggest doing knee bends with 1 leg only, that must be even more damaging.

    But anyway I am not a doctor.

    Cheers

  24. Hahaha Charles!!

    Yes, your post should be #23: When you are an SHC member and as old as I am, we can always use the excuse of having bad eyesight. That’s the privilege and advantage of the senior SHC.

    Now, to your question of how I got the “runs” and I am no doctor either… maybe it could be the water, or the extra oily foods like “crossing the bridge noodles” (which could be the reason why you need to cross the bridge!), or it could be my “missing” gall bladder. So, anybody’s guess!

    For those with knee problems and find it difficult to squat or stand after squatting: The reason is usually weak musculature notably the hamstrings and quadriceps. Our current sedentary lifestyle (and pedestal toilets) do not help and so we have problems like strains, tears, spasms and even injuries which may need operations.

    What I am suggesting is that we need excercises to strenthen the muscles that help the knees to bend and extend. But with existing pain or difficulty squatting, full knee bends would only serve to aggravate the condition besides risking further injury to the knee joints. We therefore must excercise with care and target the main reasons for our knee condition.

    But, I am no doctor.

  25. re the mild diarrhoea experiences, i realised on every trip there is always one who had it sometime during the trip. I am guessing it is just our stomach reaction to the specific type of food, oil or water that we are not used to. Reason being only one of the group member will have it and not all. Once our stomach got used to it. It kind of stopped. Even myself sometimes get it when i try some new taste. I remember once i was near the border town and the governor treated us with bear meat from burma, after that i had the same condition.

    Yes, there some Singapore businessmen and professionals in yunnan, some i know others i rather not. If you want to know the Singaporeans there, the best is to go and play golf at the spring city resort. the GM is singaporean, from there you can connect with the others. But golfing is not cheap in china. And staying at the resort is even more.

    Better stick to us who works around NGOs and simple businesses. You won’t know what kind of Singapore people you will run into when you are there. Between “the devil you know and the devil you don’t”, you will find out once you get to know them.

  26. About the silk route tour – all who went and returned have different experiences. For me, it was one of the most satisfying tours in my travel history.

    I went in Autumn. On the way to Tianshan, we entered a road lined on both sides with golden trees and we just screamed with joy! On Tianshan , it was snowing – whole place was white with fir trees for contrast – a Christmas postcard scenery! More screams of unadulterated joy.

    There’s also the unique Mogao grottos.The semi-desert landscape is an eye opener and Urumuqi is no backwater.

    As for toilet – my experience – no worse than in the other parts of China. Twice we had to do it in the open – and personally if there’s a choice between a stinking toilet and the open, I’ll choose the latter.

    There’s actually a way to avoid using the smelly toilets. I’m sure its common knowledge – but alas! it’s not an easy alternative.

    Cheers,

  27. Hi Yunnanites

    Nor & Ah Nee, I found the songs they performed at the Jade Dragon Snow Mountain. Oh, I really missed those beautiful songs & music. It brings back fond memories and am really touched & impressed by their performance. Hope you enjoy this as much as I do.

    Here’s a ?????Impression on Li-jiang?- Episode 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxMo1_NMreM&feature=related
    and ?????Impression on Li-jiang?- Episode 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ojMP5VO1Q&feature=related
    &
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjijLpiPxQ&feature=related

    for your viewing.

    Have a nice day,
    Suzhang

  28. Aiyo Suzhang, you so clever, the Yunnan (Lijiang) songs tickle my heart leh, sooooo… nice, brings back all the sweet memories of the time when we are there! I have the Yunnan song and also our Yunnan photos, how about combine both into one CD huh? How to do? Oooops…shall we try it out tomorrow, if got problem, we can ask our young colleagues to help. Nor, I will delete your dirty toilet photos before we churn out the CDs, “tak chantek” lah, toilet ‘busok” hehehe…….

    Ah Nee

  29. i thought there was one song that you ladies of leisure like very much? it seems that it is not on any of the links? anyway, i was also trying the hear that song that you all enjoyed… let me know if you need any of the other photos for your cd collection

  30. Yes!…
    Sue is v genious indeed!to go & search for that song..so nostalgic!
    the rythm so soothing & so calm..make us relax & forget about everything..

    We can ask our IT guy..YK to help us do the CD movie..hopefully he’s free la…
    YK…boleh tak?..dont go cycling everywhere le..haha

  31. Hi Nor

    We will be conducting another class for Microsoft Movie Maker soon. In the meantime pls keep all the photo n use them 4 your project.

    It’s a better option 2 learn how 2 do it yourself. Great satisfaction rewards your efforts.

  32. Yes bro YK..
    We’ll learn again…the last time…too many ppl..hehe..making excuses,catch no ball
    then after that..got discouraged!..banyak susah la

  33. Nor

    Please stop giving excuses when u are lazy to practise la (hahaha) , I was with u – one to one in the class but u were busy talking and not paying attention … This time make sure Ykwong sit next to u …and then send u home and continue the lesson again (hahaha)|

    The next “Hooha” movie – u will have to direct , ok ??

    karen

  34. Hi Dolly,

    Sorry to borrow this post as original post was closed.

    An amount of 7 000 000 Rupiah was secretly transferred in to your account this morning . My ref no: is 2596 at Clementi.

    Sorry for the late payment.

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