Hi everybody,
I will be arranging a WordPress software upgrade between now to 2nd week Jan 2013. Hopefully, by then, members can have the capability to upload pictures on their own. Currently, we cannot. There may be some inconveniences here and there, but I hope that at the end of it, we will get to benefit for it all.
Please be informed.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence,
It’s time SHC upgrade the site and getting better more up-to-date software but just wonder whether there is any kind of control over uploading of photos by members ? Some members might not like other members to post their photos on the site for some reasons of their own and if they do post them, will there be an issue between the originator and the one on the photo? They will say that want their privacy and do not like friends to see them on our website. Please englighten. Thanks.
Hi Danny,
I am open to hear suggestions.
From experience, I can see it is difficult to find photographers. Very often, we don’t have photographers and so, no photographs Secondly, I also know that the picture manager does not have the time to select or de-select photographs,
SilverHairsClub objective is very clear. I am not sure what to do about members who want to make friends, but do not want to have their photographs taken.
Photographers are not able to identify who’s who. I hope we are not suggesting that someone volunteers to de-select these pictures before publication. What do you personally think or suggest?
All ears.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence
You have the welfare of SHC in your heart and you act fast. It is great that members can upload his/her photos using the upgraded software.
If any member who do not want his/her photo to be posted can inform the photographer. If it had been taken just request it be deleted.
The SHC rules shall apply on what type of photos cannot be published.
Sorry to say that for the past one year I uploaded all the photographs submitted without selection.
Hi Terence,
Nice to hear your remarks. Personally I don’t think there a need for someone specially “created” or “Volunteer” to de-select photos submitted for publication as long as they know the rules and regulations of SHC.
Group photos taken with the person who does not want his/her photo to appear can still be published as the photographers deemed fit as group and not target at the individual as to respect their privacy unless otherwise permission has been given or granted by them to publish on their behalf.
The SHC Picture Manager should not just delete any photos of group even the individual requested him to do so. He should also respect the photographers or uploaders’ decisions. The purpose of publishing the photos are for members sharing so that they can have some good memories for their album as not everyone bring cameras along during the outings/walks/talks, etc.
Members should be selective themselves when uploading the photos for publication.
Hi Danny,
I sense you are referring to someone who does not like his/her picture from being taken. I am not personally aware of whom, but as I have mentioned earlier, it is not easy to find photgraphers for an event. I would also think it is also boring to have only group photos. You give me the impression that some individuals are being targetted, and that the individua’s privacy is not being respected.
Not too sure what you meant, although I would think that SilverHairsClub gatherings are organised with the Club’s objective in mind.
This said, we have always the difficulty of identifying what is private and who does not want to be photographed.
You may have raised an important point, but implemtation is how do you go about doing what you have suggested. I invite comments.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence,
Lend me your ears! I noticed that the advertisement on the Eldersitter seems eye-catching. Should you charge for advertisement? Revenue collected can be use to defray cost of upgrade of sofeware and even to fund various events.
The question of finding suitable venue for an event is always a question of cost. You already have a interesting blog, made full of it. A lot more can be done with sufficient fund generated. Membership will remain free of charge.
Dan
Hi Terence,
You might have misunderstood me. There is no individual been targetted as far as I am aware of. Just that some individuals does not like photographers to take their photos even in group or pairs. In such a case, I suggest that those who really do not want their photos to be taken in future should raise their requests before any photos take place so as not to inconvenience others and the photographers. They should enjoy the company of the members regardless of whether their photos have been taken candidly or not and not be so sensitive over it.
I agreed that it is not easy to find photographers for all the events organise by SHC unless otherwise someone willing to volunteer wholeheartedly which require their sacrificed time and efforts. Will there be such a volunteer ?
Hi Danny #7,
Thank you for the clarification. As I am unable to participate in all activities, sometimes there may be issues which I am not aware.
Hi Dan,
I hear what you are saying. My key priority now is to find someone who can lead a committee to run SHC. This can include advertisements, and how SHC can be funded. Unfortunately, as you would have read from this forum, we are getting more ideas and suggestions but no implementers or leaders. I do hope someone can pick up from what you have suggested.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence Seah,
I couldn’t agree more with Danny Lye. I had partaken SHC Monthly Walks and had noticed occasionally when time to have group photo a handful may seemed to be unenthusiastic. Danny’s main point – A person can always express in advance not to capture one’s picture and he shall abide by it. I guess he or she is camera shy.
However, a group photo is good for one’s album down memory lane to showcase SHCians camaraderie and may be comparable to a tour group photo for tour mates to treasure and share.
I am sure a photographer is apt to take candid photos and has a sense of satisfaction to enjoy his fruits of labour for others to share. Such shots should not be deemed as intrusion of a person’s privacy so to speak.
SHC is social so being in it people should be social and not otherwise.
Terence, I have read your write ups but never have the opportunity to meet and know you in person. Why not join one of the monthly walks for we folks to know you better and not letting others the impression that you’re overseeing SHC incognito.
Rgds,
Eddy Lee
Hi Eddy #9, Danny #7,
Thank you for your feedback and observation on photo taking. I guess many of us are shy, and will stand behind a tall person in a group photo. Others just cannot resist coming right up front. That’s what we are.
Talking about photos, SHC keeps all photographs since 2005. After 10 years, we will be able to see how much we have changed, the looks, the size and our hairs. Thanks to all the previous and current picture manager, Sock Cheng and now King Seng.
I would like to attend some of the walks, but the chances of me being in Singapore are small. No worries, I do not try to oversee SHC all the time, and obviously not incognito. The Club is very flexible, and the EOs and ECs takes care of all decisions and arrangements.
So, I hope any changes to the current website will be beneficial to members.
Terence Seah
Allow me to make some observations. Hopefully it will not fluster any feathers.
I have 10+ blogs and whenever there is a new update to a new version I only need less than 5 minutes to update all my blogs at one click. I use my hosting provider cpanel to do the job. Currently SHC is using ver 2.6 which was release a few years back – the latest version is 3.42
I am confused the need to take a few months to update to the latest version when it is a less than 5 minutes job. I hope it’s not because we have reached a stage that we became so slow and inefficient. This is definitely I am not looking forward to in years to come.
However I do observed that SHC is using a free Travelogue theme which is no longer supported by the developer since 2010. According to wordpress.org it may have compatibility issues when used with the latest version of wordpress.
You may need to do a full backup just in case there is a compatibility issue and may need to look for another theme if the situation warrant it. SHC may then really have a new ‘face’ to keep up with the time. :-)
As to the photo issue, some of them may not be comfortable with their grandchildren noticing that their Ah ma or gong in a photo which has gone viral in various medias. Being teased by their grandchildren may not be something they are looking forward to.:-)
Hi Terence #10, P K Ng #11,
Thanks Terence. Didn’t know that you’re always not in Singapore but seeing is believing and good to have first hand news.
You need somebody to lead, that’s where the EOs come into play and photographer (s) complementing a day.
P K Ng – Ah Ma or Ah Gong should be proud and happy being teased – Active, hale and hearty moving and kicking about.
I suppose those who felt uneasy being teased by grandchildren or whoever, belong to the reticent category.
My philosophy – Open mindedness in an activity is the key to be happy, live healthily for longevity.
Eddy Lee
Hi StevenN #11,
Your feedback is noted. I have to admit I am not as knowledgeable as you, neither do I have 10 blogs to manage. What I, as well as EOs, ECs as well as volunteers, try to do is to ensure that SilverHairsClub remains a real and virtual club whereby SilverHairs can come together with the objective of meeting new and more friends. Our main objective is clear.
We are not into internet marketing, neither are we into collecting email addresses. We do not go into pyramid activities like “losing weight fast”. We are not into spamming, and neither do we engaged in internet cross-selling.
I sense you are absolutely and totally unhappy with being a member of SHC. Worse, I sense you are trying to change the objectives of the Club. Here’s why I think so.
1. You do have all the knowledge and experience in the workings of the internet. If you remembered, I had asked you to conduct a talk for members; but you had flatly turned me down. Your key objective was to have members visit your websites with the purpose of internet marketing. I respected your interests.
2. I also remembered clearly you said on this forum a few years ago that the SHC website is out-of-date and not in line with your blogs. The Club gave you the opportunity to create a new website, and members make effort to try out your website. It turned out to be a collection bin of email addresses. It also turned out to be selling “Lose weight fast programs”. The website was all linked to cross selling of products. Finally, I had no choice but to close this project. One of SHC taboos is MLM.
3. I remembered you were very critical of the idea of having Club volunteers in promotional and advertising activities of SHC. But, you did not offer suggestions, nor offer to help. I hope you have not forgotten. Your objective was for SHC to go into internet marketing.
4. Take this post, for example. I announced to members that we will do a software upgrade between now to 2nd week Jan 2013. but, you chose to interpret that the software upgrade will be done from now to 2nd week of Jan. I am not sure what your intentions are.
Steven, you are always welcomed as a member. And I will always take note of your feedback. But, if your intentions are to change SHC into an internet marketing club, then I am afraid this cannot continue further. SHC will not be a club for you to champion “Lose weight fast programs”. Please do not instigate members into changing the club’s objective.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence Seah #13, Note 2 last sentence:-
May I know what MLM stands for?
Thank you.
Eddy Lee
Eddy,
MLM stands for “Multi-Level-Marketing” which I am not in favour of too. They r ripping our $$$ as too many people are involved in the system whereby they “eat” up your cost of the products. Simple saying, you need maybe pay $2 for a common product, but at MLM you might have to pay up to $8 of the products similar (subsitute)but not the same.
MLM carries their “house brand” products and solely they are the distributor so nobody can sell them. They controlled the market. Of course, not all products are bad, some are good in a way. I have experienced buying and also selling them before and find that it is not to my liking. No offence saying it or against it. Just my personal view of it.
#13 Terence, I think I solely agreed with your views on Steven. If he think he so good at all the Internet Blogs, etc, he should come up and volunteer in improving SHC website thinking ONLY in term of SHC’s objectives and not trying to sway people into his MLM marketing club. He should respect you as “the Chief” and not indirectly talks bad about the Club’s software.
Danny #15,
Thanks for the info and your comments.
Rgds,
Eddy Lee
We have taken the advice of our web hosting and software guys, and will do a major upgrade. The exact date will be announced; and it may take two days. This means the system will be done. We will give you enough notice.
Terence Seah