Almost every single event we have is related to the 50s, 60s and 70s. When we were young, our parents just could not understand the songs we were listening to. They were either too hippy, hot, pop or simply romantic or sentimental.
Can we enjoy all the evergreens and classics , and yet keep in step with our children and grandchildren? I am worried about being out-of-date. Remember, we use to talk about generation gap.
Well, I play you a song. It’s the latest craze, all about Cody Simpson, the 15 year old boy whom every teenager boy or girl is talking about.
Should we keep in step? Should we have some really hot events?
Terence Seah
Darling Terence
At last………….something that is not sooooo frigging boring plus endless nastiness, cheapness that turns into Cirque du freak!! Sigh.
I am all for keeping in step, having awesome events that make us go with a big, big smile.
You know, this Cody thing is just another right time, right place kinda thing just like J Bieber. Don’t care much for J B or Cody.
What we want is the essence of being hip and with our young at hearts mindset, we will have a blast.
Tell me what do you want.
Dear Members
We can have a “Young Nite-meaning we’re in our 20s” or a “teenagers’ Nite-meaning we dressed up as present-day teenagers”
I shall try to “borrow” my Baba club’s premises for this event, but mind you it can accomondate at the most seventy persons. Members will have to pick a date for next year.
Mind you friends, I cannot assist in organising this event due to work.
Please sms me, as since I do posses a PC, it is after at least a ten-day interval before I respond to any email.
Regards
Abel tAN
Apology friends, I do NOT possess a PC.
Abel
Hi Terence, some oldies can be quite nauseating (bubblegum songs) while some are still endearing even over the decades (the classics).Same for the present genre. This generation gap thing can never be eliminated because the moment we silverhair start to listen to the songs our children are listening, they will drop those songs from their popularity list.From my experience, the moment I shop at the same boutique as my neice, she “abandon ship” and promise never to shop at that boutique again because in her words, I have just “aunty-tised” the boutique.Also,if a silverhair rap or hip-hop – not cute lah!Let us live in our world and our children in theirs.By that we are not being out-dated but nostalgic. Ciao
Wendy-K, in very stark yet simple terms, you said it so well.
Some of us can still look cute with our own kind but dont push the look and luck too far and end up as a nauseating lao cute who makes the young puke.
Greetings Wendy # 4 and Tim # 5
So tickle by both of your remarks, like what Daniel C did ïf this is FB, I add a LIKE on it…………
Wendy – Indeed, listening to songs is largely a matter of enjoyment and it resonates deep inside us. I don’t listen to some “noise” just because I want to be “in step” or don’t want to be perceived as “out of date”. If there is a meaningful nice song – or rap – by all means embrace it.
Tim – Not only the young puke but maybe U-PUKE and I-PUKE.
Sounds like some new high tech gadgets huh? Talking about high tech, our children own I-PADs, I-PODs and I-PHONES. Be I-PROUD because I-PAID for them. Perhaps keeping up with the money is more important than keeping up with the times.
Congrats to the SHC which is populated by very colourful characters, not least naturally born comedians and comediennes tickling every reader to uncontrollable laughter. Please do me a favour by checking my spellings for accuracy as my tattered and torn memory leaves much to be desired, understandably worn out by my irreversible ageing.
One thing for sure I’ll never forget is my meal times as my angry and hungry stomach naturally scolds my mouth to do something about it, lest ‘we both exist together or die together.’
Cheers,
Terry Tang
Well, FredaLim, I think I said the honest truth for myself.
When we SHCians are together, the gals who want to stand out can wear very short skirts. Guys who want theirs to stand up shd not hesitate to wear tight clothings for that titillating sensation. If mututally attracted to each other, it’s the beginning of a new life. Lao gays too will not look out of place in an ageing world of Pink.
However, when the gathering is over, on the way home, those who take public transport – especially those who will hear 2 sounds when they tap their EZ-link cards – shd all change back to less outlandish clothings that blend with the peks and umms. No need to stand up or stand out as you’re likely to stanhd all the way on the long ride home.
Daniel-C, I dont puke now. I am mute to all these even if they appear nude before me. Statistics tell me that the mentally unsound are growing in numbers. A bad guy I may be but still owns an ounce of sympathy, and with that 1 ounce, how to puke?
Haha Tim you dont puke because you are mute even they are nude.
No hard feeling, I suppose.
Hi Abel #2,
Noted your suggestion on the use of Baba Club premises. Can you tell us where it is located; or if there is a website featuring the place? Thank you.
Hi Geraldine #1,
I was hoping that there would be some members among us who would be able to share with us what’s the latest in the music and fashion scene. See you are not game; others feel we should be what we are. Well, I havent given up yet.
Terence Seah
“Tim……..no hard feeling, I suppose”.
Daniel-C, I remember how you look lke, Trim and slim with a beautiful body. So, I let my imagination roan freely and she you masquerade as a flower girl in a SHC Act. No hard feeling but I feel hard. Can resist a hard-on.
Oblige me, wont you?
Oh Terence
I am all for it! What do you mean that I am not game?
I would like for this event to happen. Think you have mistaken my comments about the 2 happening idols.
I can give you music and fashion scene. My question to you was how do you want this event to take place? I am all set to perform – singing, dancing. Although not as a teeny teenager but a hip 20-something who is still hot and happening.
Don’t give up this awesome idea; it will be fun. Was waiting for your reply as to the next step.
Hi Geraldine,
I am definitely very glad to know that you do like a “hip 20-something” event. Not that I know you very well, but I can guess you fit the image of this hot hip something.
It’s an exciting time ahead for SilverHairs, as we reach closer to being 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100. Music makes the world go round. Old songs and memorable events help bring us together. But, we must not forget the world is moving forward. We see our children, nieces and nephews grow taller and enjoying the new world. I believe we should be in step too.
Sure, and yes fellow SHCians, let’s move ahead, while we treasure the great yesteryears together.
Terence Seah
Hi Tim #12,
As boys, we may enjoy some indulgence in our private world, and you are entitled to express your imagination in words. But in SilverHairsClub.com, you have just crossed the boundary of fair respect for fellow members. You have also breached one of our club taboos. The SHC forum is not to be used for sex soliciting.
From the tone of your comment, you may sound playful. But, please do not wake up Fairy Godmother.
Terence Seah
wah wah wah ..hardly 7 morning 8 morning ve so many kong lai kong ki 1 hor….
bro terence ..wah u ve so many tok kong idea 1 lei…..
wat milk powder wen u baby ,mama let u drink har ?
so chong beng 1 ( clever) yes ..let hope mei mei can come & siow wif it…so no horse run 1 lei……..tio bo har ?
sam huat
Terence Seah Kim Seng @ #15, are you for real?
What have you read in my #12 to say that I have crossed “fair respect” for another member, and that I have solicited for sex?
You cant be dumb but can you be this dumb?
Terence Chief, Good morning
Although I’m on your side, but I feel indifference hahahaha
It’s time fairy godmother wake up!! hahaha
“Daniel-C, I remember how you look lke, Trim and slim with a beautiful body. So, I let my imagination roan freely and she you masquerade as a flower girl in a SHC Act. No hard feeling but I feel hard. Can resist a hard-on. Oblige me, wont you?”
If this is not sex soliciting, what is?
Haha Tim, when I wrote my last few lines, I had expected your kind of response. You did not disappoint me. More importantly I wanted to see the response of the Administrator towards your response. He did not disappoint either. GOTCHA!
You have a good command of the English Language, Tim. Your choice of words is impressive, if not impeccable. Coupled with your knowledge and clever use of Chinese, your writing is really interesting to read. But love you and loathe you, remember? All men like dirty jokes. You and I are no exception. However, there is a fine line between humorous and horrendous, implicit and invasive and discreet and disgusting. Obviously you are not very good at toeing that fine line. Many of your past postings are irrefutable evidence.
If you were at other more family-oriented sites, you would have been booted out long ago. Having said that, your contributions have indeed had added much colour to this site. Don’t stop writing but try to improve your balancing act. And I am sure “fairy godmother” is anxiously watching.
I have achieved my objective. Poly new term has started. No time to play words with you. My parting shot is – no hard feelings I hope, old pal. NOT literally although you may still wish to think otherwise.
Daniel-C, no matter how much you pay for a make-over, your bland blank look stays. You will never look a lady, much less for me to cast en eye at.
Let me give you and Terence a lesson on the word “solicit” by asking a question.
Between, a whore and her customer, who solicits?
If there was solicitation here, it has to be the “she” not me. Dont worry, the “she” doesnt need to deny frenetically becos there wasnt any solicitaion in the first place, however one wants to conjure.
If you cant see that it was a rub-in on your “hard feeling” on me, you wont see much when you start your term at whatever poly; worst, if you’re a lab assistant in a polyclinic.
“Oblige me, wont you?” Oblige me to do what ? To wear a dress, of cos. Not that it will make you pretty but to make me laugh. What dirty thoughts you and Terence had in mind?
Sure, by all means, go to any of the family orientated sites. Consult yr aunty agony there. But why arent you there but be seen limping in this site that I have made horrendous and invasive?
People I didnt know sought me out at gatherings and told me they liked what I wrote. Thank you folks.
Yes, my past postings are irrefutable evidence.
The Carrier Man can. The Balls Carrier Man (not you) lagi can. He writes like shitt so he polishes ap[les and carries balls to deflect. Sour grapes there’re many too. But do I care?
Until Terence admits that he was mistaken with his call, I dont see why I shd write in this forum again unless if my name is mentioned or I am insinuated at.
Hi Tim,
Thank you for your explanation. I don’t need to go further. I just ask you to give fair respect to other members of this club; just as you would expect same from other members. As to the issue on sex, the line should stop about here.
The SilverHairsClub objective is very clear. I hope you won’t make my job of administering this club difficult.
Terence Seah
No amount of denial nor explanation will vindicate you, Tim. I will not stoop so low to disparage you and glorify myself. No need to. Yes I am a “polyclinic lab assistant”. Shame me. The audience is not stupid. Tell me they are ?
Did anybody mention pest control ? Care to advise?
Terence, it wasnt an explanation. It was plain facts made simple for a befuddled man.
There wasnt an issue of sex here. You started it and you now want to end it quickly. I shall let you off.
Daniel -C, you hunger for many needs but have asked me to raise my hands.
You needed vindication, You needed glorification. And now you ask for advice whether you need a pest control. I say, go for it. Enjoy the time together with the pests and their controller no less pesky.
And why feel ashamed being a polyclinic lab assistant? It shd be a decent job unless you do it indecently. Cant help but to see another need you need – the need to have self estemm. Go for it and get it from the pests controller.
yes Steven Chan,
What a good day to get rid of the male pest. Hahaha. It’s really quite fun.
And yes Daniel Chan, like you have said “the audience is not stupid”
There’s no need to say more. Suffice to say that if this were to end here , it wud be too easy. Rest assured that this won’t end so soon and so easily. hahaha, it shud be fun & games, looking forward to it till and at the ends of the world. amen!
GOOD MORNING everybody, including my worthy opponent Tim.
Thank you Terrence for cracking the whip loud and clear this time. It is long overdue but better late than never.
I hope you are doing it for the good image of the club. Don’t worry about me. I have said before, “Nobody can make me feel inferior without my consent”. People often wonder who the Administrator of this club is. (Note #23 —….You started it and you now want to end it quickly. I shall let you off). Interesting.
Hi Henry. Thank you for your interest and that supporting statement. I will just add this one more post before I indulge myself in other more meaningful activities, like teaching my “patients” good manners. Haha
Hello Tim. Hope you have had a good night sleep last night, because your replies suggested you were jumping and pulling your hair. No hard feelings, hopefully (here we go again?)
Anyway, I found that I can only “spar” with you comfortably and intelligently if you DON’T USE :
1.Silly irrelevant innuendoes (…worst, if you’re a lab assistant in a polyclinic).
2.Insults and personal attacks (bland blank look)
3.Name-calling (Balls Carrier man?) Not me, then who?
4.Sexual harassment connotations (too many to mention…)
I, like many in the audience, will be interested to know what you can write without any of the above “tools”. Try replying.
It may interest you that my “clinic” has a huge lecture theatre that can sit 200. Later I am going to tell my “patients” something (ironically, if you wish) about effective communication. I am sure it can accommodate a few more. But there is a sign that says, “Pests Not Allowed”.
Good morning Terence,
What I have to say has nothing to do with you Terence, so rest assured.
I wud like to duly inform you that I have duly presented to the police some materials concerning a jerk in this club.
The police are investigating and just to inform you that this blog have been trawled as part of the investigations.
Upon legal advice, I’ll act accordingly.
My humble advice to those members old and new who may have received materials that serve as tools of intimidation however vague, please report to the police immediately.
One of the comments was that the club was overindulgent right from the begining, resulting in certain member riding rough shod over others turning this friendship blog into a quarrel blog. The inferiority complex evidenced by the incessant need for seeking attention and the raging jealousy and envy presented in the materials by this jerk is spectacularly stunting. This jerk have chosen the wrong target to intimidate this instance.
So congratulations to you Terence, you did the right thing yesterday, and I hope you keep it stringent & let this be a friendship blog bringing happy people together for a long long time to come.
Good morning Daniel-C. i finally had a good sleep after almost 50 hours at work.
“Cracking whip, pulling hair”. They sound like some kind of SM. Dont go into that. It’s unbecoming of whatever poly you do your communication in. And I must agree with you that pests arent allowed. A corollary, you wont want the pest controller either.
Personal attack from me? Sure or not? Remove all the nice things you said in #19 and what did you have for me? More adulations?
Now, I will move on to that pest-controlled jerk.
The first time I saw him, he ran to me and called me “brother”. I frowned. Did he know me enough? Was I close to him? I almost slapped him bcos I never liked balls carriers. And well, he turns out to be a true jerk, calling another a rapists only bcos that other person is more popular and welcomed by the girls. tsk, tsk, tsk……..
Police report, legal advice? Pls ensure you can write proper English first otherwise they will send you to an English class. Or put more pests to control you.
Thanks…haha shall we meet?
Haha, I called you on your phon, you answered, you can hardly talk because you are breathing so hard.
I just invite you for coffee only.
why so shy hah hahaha
I received a call. He identified himself and told me he was my good friend. Thick skin. Breathing heavily, his voice was sweet and seductive. Coffee with a she-man? Well…………………
what shit talk, no balls to even pick up my call. tell me where & time, no need shit talk
And he called again, wanting to smash my face. Pursue your police report and certainly I have a case to pursue if I want to. Well, you no. 1 gangster huh? Spend yr time polishinmg yr English, not polishing apples………………..
Wow! I just logged on after quite a while and THIS is what I read!
Who says women are the quarrelsome sex huh?
What has SHC become?
Oh well, I guess I will wait another ……eon?? before I come in again…? Then perhaps all this will blow over and there will be something ….interesting to read?
Ok, back to playing with Amber….. much more fun than this. Sigh.
It has been eerily silent. I hope I am not making it more eerie by sharing this piece of news.
I was at the launch of the Annual Engineering Week this afternoon (combined Polytechnics). It was attended by representatives from various ministries and stat boards, including the MDA. Invariably, during casual chats, the issue on cyber-space security and online etiquette was brought up. I understand from officers that there is an Internet Regulatory Framework which, among other things, embodies the Internet Code of Practice and Internet Industry Guideline.
I also understand that MDA is providing a “light-touch” approach and expects content providers and forum-site owners to be self-regulatory. Another word, they do not bother if every user/viewer is happy. However, if there is an official complain accompanied by “objectionable materials” proven to be derived from the site in question, the owner will have to show cause on why it should be allowed to operate.
While we may just have a few very outspoken individuals who talk with no holds barred, we must not forget that there are hundreds, if not thousands, watching on the sideline. All we need is just one person print out a few pages of “clever” exhilarations laced with sexually harassment connotations (SHC?) and present it to MDA.
Indeed. Wake up or shut down.
I have been following this exchange of words. After reading Daniel’s comment #34, I thought I would have a look at the traffic on our website.
For the last 12 months, our average number of page views per day by month varies between 6,000 and 9,000 pages/day.
For this month October alone, the average page views is more than 12,000 pages/day. This is the highest among all other months in the last 12 months.
Perhaps, there are reasons like interesting activities. However, I suspect our audience likes to read hot heated exchange of words. So, I guess we are all in a drama where the world is the audience and we on a stage.
It’s being pretty disturbing to me. Obviously, to stop this heated expression of words, views and opinions at this stage is not highly desired; or else we will be shutting down the club every other month. Just like in a real club, SHC is no different. My approach is still to allow such exchanges, but we must stop at some time.
For some audience, this is an interesting observation of men, in general. It’s a good airing of whatever is inside. Hold your breath for some time.
So, please continue with the exchange. But, give due respect to other fellow members. The fairy godmother has woken up, as it is now spring time. Finished her hibernation. She is all dressed up, and looking pretty, a diamond crown on the head and a little new pen-size wand on her left hand.
Please do not go further than Sunday 23 Oct 2011.
Terence Seah
Thank goodness it’s spring time for whisky fairy. Can’t imagine if she is here or some place else where we are preparing for hibernation and hopefully this winter will not be as harsh as last year’s.
I reeli like the all dressed up, pretty look with a diamond crown! The new 2012 look. Sweet.
Pity the new wand is only pen-sized, kekekekeee.
Good day All,
Allow me to say a few words of support of what Daniel Chan @Happy Birthday to SilverHairsClub on its 6th Birthday here, least we mar the happy occasion there haha
Well, we wud definitely not say “hello darling”, when we are about to spray insecticides on a pest right?.
It’s commendable that Terence is trying to build/ construct something here. Similarly when we make a post, mindfull that the post wud fall into two categories- CONSTRUCT or DESTROY. It’s quite okay if some of us don’t want to help construct for whatever reasons, but please don’t come here to try and destroy. One look at the post & most of us can tell whch category the post falls on.
I wud like to apple polish all & sundry if I can, or encourage good community behaviour, but if those who don’t have the fooking standards required for me to apple polish, please reflect on yourselves. Thank you. I wud like to be polite all the time, but if the occasion required for me to go down to the gutter, there wont be a moment of hesitation.
Thank you, Terrence (#35). I must first apologise for being part of this “ruckus”. Your timely intervention is much needed. Showing respect to other members may be a tall order for some, but the least every one can do is to show respect to the owner of this site. The audience at large needs to know who is actually calling the shot. If this was a better- controlled site, any unceremonious remarks directed at the regulator could well be his last. Otherwise, where is the credibility of the man wielding his “big” stick?
Thank you Geraldine (#36), for the optimistic outlook for 2012. Indeed, spring is in the air. I think it does not matter that Terrence’s wand or pen is small. Yes in many situations, size does matter but not when” magic” is concerned. In fact, many magicians would prefer their apparatus not to be seen while performing their tricks. Therefore, trust our chief to do the right thing – without fear or favour.
Thank you, Henry (#37). When I asked for advice (#22), I got more than I could bargain for. If I could, I would give you a high five here. I must also apologise that I let you lose your cool. I was tempted to do the same, honestly. I always believe that kindness begets kindness and the reverse is equally true.
This is a good site for us to “meet” and “chat” after a hard day’s work. It will be a shame if it is shut down through no fault of the owner. Occasionally we may deliver an offending word or two, and we know there is no ill intention. Smile and move on.
What we dislike are recalcitrant “jokers” who consistently hijack a good thread to crack cruel dirty jokes at others, but when the joke is on him, he screams as if his “you-know-what” is being sliced. Such people have no place in any forum sites.
Best regards, all!
Hi Tim,
This is for you. Brace up!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=zLVoTDVaQxQ
this is with lyrics
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=QZ4uyiD4p8A
Many thanks June-C. Nice links. Nice thoughts. Nice of you.
I have stated my position very clearly. Unless Terence admits to the mistake made, I wont write in this forum again unless it is to respond.
I dont need any effort to write because I enjoy it but still there’ time expended, a commodity precious to me as I hardly have enough time to sleep.
Some people need a crowd to feel strength. A single shriek scares the screamer but when a few scream together, they turn their nightmares into dreams. So be it.
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Good nite.
Wow Daniel
What a pleasant surprise to hear from you!
I totally agree with the ‘kindness begets kindness’ saying and yes, the reverse, too.
Am tickled by the ‘size does matter’ in many situations. Again I agree. It does matter. Kekekekkee. Lucky for us, it’s just a wand, not the real thing. Kakakakaa.
Well, it’s nice of what you wrote on #38. Sincere and apologetic.
Since you love cantonese songs, hopefully one day we can sing together.
Hi Tim #40,
You are always welcome to participate in the SHC forum and activities. I make an effort to treat all members’ views and opinion equally. Unfortunately, I am not able to offer incentives for doing so.
But, if you participate, I must ask you to give fair respect to the other members of the club, as you would expect others to give same to you. Thank you.
Terence Seah
Where is that ballsless JERK hiding? In forum garang, when comes to the crunch , ballsless hahahahaha big joke of SHC
Tomorrow I might just detour to the BRA, heard nice books there. kekekeeke
Geraldine, your “Real Thing” joke makes me think of an advertisement not so long ago – “It’s the real thing, COKE”. And some people simply cannot pronounce properly. Kekekeee. Yah I would very much like to sing a canto song with you, – ?????!
To all canto song lovers: The following is a song lyric I just thought of. I am looking for somebody to compose the tune.
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Gutter-vocabulary is not exclusive to anybody. When it comes to the crunch, everybody can be equally eloquent – and Terrence will have a hard time exercising his mandate. Just waiting for the right time to remove my gloves.
Thank you Terence.
You wont admit? I wont change. And we are both very stubborn people. So how? Easy.
I shall, with immediate effect, withdraw from SHC and henceforth wont read or write in this forum or particpate in SHC activities.
In closing, I can see a befriender fanatic roaming in here. He thinks he is entitled to smash yr face if you refuse to be his good friend. More than just a jerk. A quirk jerk.
Have fun.
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??LAB ASST????? ?
“ ?????? ?????, ?????, ?????, ?????”?
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You made yourself sound so believable…it’s a good joke.
A ballsless JERK who is too smart by half all the time but who think the world of himself, who never respect anybody around you.
Running away now is silly because I won’t be publishing those materials so soon, you will miss out on the fun when I do. Don’t U want to see how the contents looked like when they appear in this forum?
So sad it is when one brother has a case against another. Can we just temper our resentment with mercy. I believe TL is harmless, he may expressed a lot of innuendoe here and there but through the years that we know him he is soft spoken and can be kind at heart. He is ready to support a cause or event when the response is poor. He is also ready to chip in for the number to ensure that whatever task put out by fellas member are carried out.
Can we just be more forgiving, most of us has come thus far, what have we not experience in our life. Life is short, can we focus on whatever is good, whatever is sound and of good report rather than trying to put down one another.
DC, I know that you are a person who is ready to right a wrong, to stand up for the weak, to fight for those who are grieving. I ask that we show sympathy for those who openly may appear to be doing well but inwardly are hurting and yet trying to numb their pains through various channels!
H, H I know you for more than twenty years. We clash here and there but never really got into a fight. Whatever you have against him is better be known just to you. Is it any use to continue adding insult to injury. How about we cherish more to smoke peace pipes, to understand more about human frailty, to make more love and babies. Maybe not, we are past fruit bearing age.
TS, we hope that you will arbitrate wisely and ensure that order will be restore on this forum and peace may prevail. We are six years old and has come thus far. Let’s us continue to strive to do more and contribute more for each member in this Club.
Dan
Hahahahaa Daniel, some people can’t pronounce coke properly? Am so tickled. I can safely guess their pronunciation. Kekekekee.
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We simply enjoy our duets, croaking along and have a good time, so what if we are off-key, whatever.
I have read TL withdrawal as a member and felt sad. Woke up at midnight and wishes someone will actually post and stand neutral and voice out their sincere view. It never disappointed me and tears naturally flow. As I have never met anyone of you but I have been faithfully reading the threads not once but twice or even more daily as and whenever I am free with my iPhone.
Whenever there is some dispute among members I always hope that someone will try to cool off the argument and this is no other person than Tim Liu, although I hope there is some others as well. Though agree with Dan that there are some innuendoe made by him but there are also such made by others but it is acceptable when wrote by the opposite sex.
This club is meant for those age above 45 and I believes that majority of the members are above 60. As the Chinese sayings, one of our foot is already in the coffin and hence how many years do we left to treasure life and friends that we met along the way.
As we all know that this club will be corporate soon and corporate members can bring in their members as well and more cliques will be form and more gossip will be flooding among the members resulting more conflicts. But we must realize and remember that in all real murder cases, the root cause starts from PROVOKING. So try not to be one of them although “murder” will not and should never happens in this club cos we are OLD enough to be WISE unless the proverb have proved us wrong.
Last but not least, please bear with my broken and unstructure English as you can jolly judge that I am not highly educated and Chinese is my first language. I typing using my iPhone and can’t scroll to the top to do any corrections
Good nite if there is anyone ever reading now.
Dear friends,
“Dust if you must, but there’s not much time,
with rivers to swim and
mountains to climb,
music to hear and books to read,
FRIENDS TO CHERISH and life to lead.”
“What the dew is to the flower, gentle words
are to the soul.”
“FRIENDS
Among the riches
treasures
Our God in Heaven
sends. None could ever
measure The value of
our FRIENDS!”
As per June’s comments in #50, it’s true that at our age, one of our feet is in the grave. Let’s ‘party’, enjoy and have good friendships till death do us part…. hahaha…
Cheers and peace to one and all,
Gabriella
Dan
I did not interfere in this case because I agree with Terence. In fact, I would have done what Terence did, one year earlier.
There will be a few women here who will be sadden because of Tim’s withdrawal but there will be far more members who may now feel more at ease to put their views here after this event is forgotten. I think quarrels here will be less frequent and if there are, will be more civilize.
Respect for each other is most important element to have for a proper exchange of views.
Dear Dan, The other day when you asked me whether I participate in the forum I said yes, but only one-liners cos I’d rather not comment too much. Little did I know that today I am doing the opposite, if not for the compelling feeling as you do, ie. to urge the warring parties that everyone of us by nature have a good heart and that goes for Daniel C, Henry Y, and Tim L. I’m sure they all started well and have good intentions to make the SHC come alive with their presence, whether in person or in the forum. I was relieved but alas only for a while, when Mary Chan moderated and had hoped that truce would prevail, but unfortunately that was not to be so. At first I was quite p.o. (sorry cant find a better word at this moment) with the one with the most caustic tongue but his opponent jumped in just as mercilessly in the boxing ring and then others landed on him. The affected individuals have given their opponents their fair share of cruel punches so it’s enough already. Oh, this is terible and I sympathise with Terence whom I have the utmost respect, trying to put the match in order. There’s just too much to be said here but I remember some wise saying – better to say less than more. Dan, I’d like to echo what said, can we not temper this fiasco with mercy and forgiveness? As a passive contributor (except this instance, maybe), I hope to continue enjoying reading the goings-on, the banterings, activities that we must be looking forward, and the others. But I must say that though I enjoy some of the banterings I feel very uncomfortable when these stray beyond the OB markers in the language area in the heat of the moment.
Hi peepers, I just read abt Tim quitting SHC and I am saddened.I just joined SHC for maybe not more than 3 months and almost all SHCians are very nice and welcoming towards me, Tim especially.
a) In my 1st monthly walk, he introduced himself and we spoke quite alot.At the end of that walk alone I know alot about the man himself and I feel at ease.
b)Then when I attended that event “one nite in Chinatown” and left early, Tim noticed and asked me to stay. I must say that he made me feel like I am part of the whole event.
c)When I said “Hi” to the members I met in SHC in the forum sometime back when the subject on why new members are not joining in the SHC activities, Tim “Hi-ed” back.Kudos Tim. That “Hi” meant so much to a new member.So encouraging!
d)At the Bishan-Casuarina walk, there was a moment when I was somehow walking by myself with part of the group far in front and another far behind. Tim stepped forward and asked me if I am doing OK.
I rest my case.
A Sad Day
SHC has lost a wit;
It isn’t everyday you have a wit in your midst.
A flawed wit is better than no wit.
SHC has lost a wit.
“No hard feeling I suppose”, this is the line that started it all. Thank you everybody for chipping in. Let us do a summary of the events that led to this. Scroll up to post #10. Yes I did that for a purpose. I wanted to know what his response would be when the joke was on him. He reacted swiftly. What followed was a torrent of insults, silly innuendoes and name-callings (#12, 20 and 23). In other more decent sites, such descriptions will never see the light of day.
So I did hurt his feelings, hard or otherwise. Did he care about others’ feelings when he hijacked a post to crack his cruel dirty jokes? Did he care about anybody’s feelings when he planted his no-holds-barred interjections? Just visit any other posts to see what he has had written.
????, ????
What are the reactions of members to his “clever-dirty-jokes”?
1. They ignore him. After some time they fade into oblivion. Why must they come to this site to be humiliated?
2. They “play along” with him – especially new members who don’t know him. This arouses him further and encourages him to write more. More unmentionables are spewed.
3. They don’t know what to do. They are either too polite to offend him or unable to write as “clever”. They may put in a line or two to entertain him but it makes him more excited and he pokes fun at their “distorted” statements.
4. They enjoy his ticklish stuff and yearn for more.
Apart from category 4 above which consists of very few members, if any; the majority of the people here needs to be protected. Who gives him the liberty to treat every post as an open game and every comment an open target for his pleasure? Who gives him the absolute right to write as he pleases? Who gives him the freedom to insult others without anybody caring or daring to interfere? Indeed who makes him the “KING” of this site? Terrence? Probably and that brings us to the other highlights of this thread.
Quote :
#17 Terence Seah Kim Seng @ #15, are you for real?…. You cant be dumb but can you be this dumb?
#20 Let me give you and Terence a lesson on the word “solicit” by asking a question. Between, a whore and her customer, who solicits?
#23 Terence, it wasnt an explanation. It was plain facts made simple for a befuddled man. There wasnt an issue of sex here. You started it and you now want to end it
quickly. I shall let you off.
Such remarks to the regulator of a respectable site will see the writer booted out in no time. And the puzzling part is that when Terrence replied him he was like coaxing a spoilt-child (#21 and $42). Why does a regulator need to thank and welcome a writer who spews indecencies unreservedly and almost brought the whole house down?
We don’t care about their relationship outside this limelight but once on stage, protocols must be observed. If a member treats the regulator in a public forum as dirt, imagine his perception of other members. Everybody who participates in this forum is his fair game, where he cherry-picks his victim and unleash his filth. Of course, members who are not happy can simply walk away. There are hundreds of other forum sites where we can participate with decorum and dignity. If this club/ site cannot exist without our flamboyant suitor, then by all means make him the Administrator or Regulator. We can always change the theme and tune of this site. After all, filthy gutter vocabulary is not an exclusive commodity. It just does not make sense that we frequently ignore taboos and OB markers because of one member.
Thankfully, the “pest controller” came in. Indeed, we need a person who speaks his language to silent him. If the pest is removed for good isn’t it time for celebration?
I know Tim you are tempted to reply. Please write intelligent facts. Phrases such as “trim and slim with a beautiful body”, “The Carrier Man can. The Balls Carrier Man (not you) lagi can” and “ worst, if you’re a lab assistant in a polyclinic” do not offer any credibility at all in your reasoning. At best it shows that your vocabulary only consists of grit and slime.
Hi Daniel #56,
SHC is indeed blessed with your presence.
I’ve been reading, even if I don’t hv a full day, I wudn’t be able to come quite near your sharp, precise & very objective summary.
Your eloquence is a great Joy.
To Daniel @ #56 and all concerned,
Well said Daniel. It takes an intelligent and objective person to say and do what you have done.
Good riddance to bad rubbish is all I can say. Tim has a habit of saying he ‘forgives’ you, AFTER he has slandered you. Very much akin to a rapist saying ‘he forgives the victim’ after the felony. Adding insult to injury.
To all those ladies who feel heartbroken after this incident, being ‘noticed’ by Tim Liu is not a case for jubilation, rather a case for ‘consternation’.
There are stories of jubilation morphing to consternation, but like always, they are never told in public. Shame and embarassment is the reason.
Like Tian Soo, I was surprised at the latitude Tim was given. But everyone knew he had a special relationship, so those who disagreed, avoided difficult and quarrelsome situations to keep the peace.
Typically like a bully, he sees this as domination, and starts to push borders and civilised guidelines. Even Terence’s pleading to ‘respect’ other opinions were unsuccessful. True to form, he says, ‘until Terence admits his mistake’, He will forgive him, and return to the SHC website. Terence, SHC founder, who establishes and enforces the ground rules, is still very much a lesser minion.
So what else is there to say. Perhaps to remind everybody, “There’s a sucker born every minute”.
I received this in my Facebook today and would like to share it here.
Forgiveness
Anyone can hold a grudge, but it takes a person with character to forgive. When you forgive you release yourself from a painful burden and by making peace with pain you are ready to let go.
Dear Charles,
quote “You also seem to imply that I am attacking him when he is down”
SunZi wud be proud of you Charles!! Wwhat a great military commander you’ll be!!
Attacking the enemies when they are at the prime of their mights are for fools.
“Down” is a perception.
The important question here is, “will he get down even further” ? With the current trajectory he’s taking, thats guaranteed. Given enough ropes he’ll hang himself.
Will he stop going down?
Possible, provided he sees the errors of his ways, repent & make ammends.
Terence
Love the new banner!
I know 3 of them, don’t think I have met the remaining 3. Good to see Ah Nee here.
TS’ pose made me giggle – he looks soooo patriotic with his left hand over his heart. Nice. Normally it’s the right hand but guess it’s because of the position where they stood.
Wonder which cycling activity this was.
Hi Folks,
Some members have requested I close some Posts. I am not inclined to do so because this may not be the best way to manage an online forum. In fact, I would ask that we continue sharing our thoughts and views.
But, please do not burn the bridges of friendship that you have built since the day you joined SHC. I am sure all of us have experienced regret over the letter we had dropped too quickly into the Post box. I had regretted a few times, after hitting the ENTER key too early.
However, this incident could have been better handled. To be honest, I have not thought of it before. It’s good I have a word with Fairy Godmother.
Meantime, I would like to hear some suggestions from you.
Terence Seah
Terence
I agree with you that it’s not the best way to manage an online forum by closing some Posts just because there are heated quarrels etc.
Members should be allowed to bring up issues that bother them and the parties involved should try to clear the air, apologise if needed and hopefully the issue is resolved.
In this case, it has gone on for too long, causing distress to other members. That said, we can’t just stop members who still need to vent and get to the bottom of the issue which has been brewing for a long time.
This case actually weeds out all the frustrations and annoyance that have been buried.
So far you have set a time limit for any issue to close which works but in this case, I think members really want to have it out so that they can finally be able to close the chapter and move on.
In the past you have a guest member status whereby after a member has been warned but still quarrel etc, he or she becomes a guest member, able to read the forum but can’t log in to comment for a year.
Perhaps you can do it again.
However with this case you may want to exercise tact as the comments so far are true, unbiased, some with very good points. The men are not ganging up to make one guy as a victim. There are legit questions and facts to back up their actions. It’s not that they have nothing better to do.
As for members who want to leave, let it be. They have their reasons so the club will honor their wish.
I was told about the “keyboard war” hence spent about an hour reading the comments.
I wonder how come a tread about “keeping up with times” can be an “exit” song for Tim? do you really want him out of shc so badly? (don’t use your personal feeling but rather objective judgement).
i know tim has short temper but he’s a man with big heart and he can make fun of all situation/subjects. he is witty to be sure. but intentionally to hurt people? i don’t think so. perhaps we should read his comments with a pinch of salt? (don’t get offended, be cool)
Daniel: if you’d have stopped at #19 it’d be better (I prefer you singing for us like in ‘1 night in chinatown’) and Henry? please don’t be pest controller – you are such a nice guy with big sunshine smile. it’s such a delight knowing an enthusiastic guy like you who likes to participate in all sorts of activities in shc.
Charles: i think i met you briefly at ‘1 night in chinatown’. you’re the guy with silverhairs and specs right? my impression of you is that you look like a gentleman – keep it up!
Terence: I think you need to put a statement on every post “please discuss/comment only things that relevant to the topic or else it’ll be deleted or removed to a ‘special’ post”
Tim: please don’t quit SHC. it’ll not be fun without you around. as for your ‘outflow’ of ideas/comments, why not create a blog of your own elsewhere? I’m sure there will be lots of hits each day
Love & Peace & Be Happy to all!
Hi Geraldine #63,
I am along your thinking too. As administrator of SilverHairsClub.com, I will continue to ensure we have a wide and cosy forum for discussion and interaction among club members.
Despite different views and opinion, no matter how heated it is, I am not likely to close any Post. Members must be allowed to exchange views here. I have worked with various media in Asia, and I am aware that stopping the free flow of verbal or written exchange cannot be just stopped, at the whip of the hand.
I like to take the approach that members respect the views and position of one another. If anyone takes a firm position, so can another member. It’s up to the individual to decide if he/she wishes to pursue. Still, it all boils down to fair respect.
But, we should not redicule another member. Most of us do joke, and this is highly encouraged. But, on a forum like this, the response may not be otherwise. Go ahead, speak your mind. I don’t wish to discourage jokes.
Luckily, I love to hear criticisms, both on this forum and outside. To Terence, this is just somebody’s viewpoint and he/she is entitled to. So, you can call me deaf, dumb or stupid.
Just like in any club or organisation, disputes and quarrels take place from time to time. Should we stop the quarrel or dispute when it happens or wait until we see the parang? Do we wait for Fairy Godmother to wave her little wand? Do, we add further to the debate and support one of the parties? There are many moderators in our club, and I am happy with this. Sometimes, moderating a quarrel can work; but sometimes, they can backfire and turn against us. We may be considered to support the other party.
The club has chosen 45 as the age and line of sensible behaviour. Good debate and exchange is good. But, if we get to the stage of using the fist, rediculing one of the parties, and threats, this is not acceptable behaviour. Unfortunately, when the issue gets hotter, the outcome can be unpredictable. And, this can escalate very quickly.
I am not sure how many members in our club study human behaviour, not between birds and bees, but between man and woman. And more complicated is the interactive behaviour among men and women. The same behaviour between 16 and 26 can also happen among the over 45s. I love this subject; it’s all because we are either a man or a women. Anybody can recommend a good read, please share with us.
As administrator of SilverHairsClub.com, I will make no attempts to change the behaviour of any individual member, and neither will I stop any discussion, as long as the issue stays reasonably outside the club taboos.
In most hot cases, I will ask that members continue the discussion, bearing in mind that we may have different viewpoints, and have fair respect for fellow members. I may also set a date for the exchange to stop a week or two later, so as to calm the situation.
This is my view and how I see the current heated exchange.
You are invited to share your views too.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence, it’s me again.I have this 2-cents worth.
We can hold an event for these warring parties to thrash it out face to face.
2 teams: Tim vs a representive from the opposing side. Either:
a) throw a shoe(baby shoe, so nobody gets comatosed)like George Bush case or a pie like Murdoch’s. Just in case it’s pie and not shoe, don’t include me. Me, Wendy Koh not Wendy Deng.
The team that hits the target is the winner.Loser’s penalty – maybe suspend temporarily from forum. No need for anybody to quit from SHC.
I am sure after that we can find a closure to this saga.
I fully agree with Frisna’s suggestion to Tim to start his own blog. From the enthusiastic responds from ladies here it will be popular and they will all have a good time there. We should wish them well.
Wendy Koh, sounds like you enjoy quarrels and would like to hear more from Tim. You can be EO for the event, just raise you hand.
Terence.I read your long ‘analysis’ on the issue but to me it is simple. When there is a member who is involved in almost every quarrel in this forum. You have to decide if that is good for your forum. If yes, stay quiet, if not a gentle reminder is appropriate. You did that and he chose to withdraw. End of story.
I am going back to watch worms and see if they are still fighting each other be bird food.
Hi Terence #62
When you visit the fairy Godma, remember to ask her to mend the broken bridges. Let’s help to contribute towards a gracious society.
#65
A good read on human gender behaviour? How about “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus”? I shall put this book up for sale on the online fleamart next month. LOL! :)
AIYOYO, WHAT are we talking about?
I am not interested in his purpose and performance at events, functions or anywhere else. He can mesmerise all the women for all I care. I wish him well. I wish the women well too. It is cruel to curtail the enjoyment of mutually-agreed bodies.
The REAL issue here is ONLINE ETIQUETTE and RESPECT for other forum members, and my summary above (#56) says all. I have received several SMSes and Emails of thanks from lady-members. They are too shy to be identified. We have to look after the silent majority if there is still any decency left in this site.
Having all said and done, the verdict is simple and it can be one of 2:
1) It remains a venue for some women to come and get some fun in the form of “Sexual Harassment Connotations (SHC)”. Let the current no-holds-barred profanities continue. We already have a natural leader waiting haven’t we? Terrence please step aside. I am sure some ladies will even pay to join. The rest can move on to other more respectable sites.
2) It lives up to its name as Silver Hairs Club (SHC). It abides by its objectives and observes its taboos and OB markers as spelt out. Any member who spews obscenities will have to be warned and recalcitrant offenders booted out. Our “idol” starts his own blog taking his appreciative entourage with him.
I am sure many men can live with either verdict. Let the judge and the jury decide. In any case, we still have SHC.
Hi Wendy Koh @ 66,
You must read much more in depth what exactly are the circumstances that led to this lengthy “quarrel” TV reality showtime 2011 .
We are already 45 years n above in age. Some are already senior citizens.
” Do the warring parties really need to throw shoes/pies at each other to settle an argument ? ? ? ” …..The team that hits the target is the winner.Loser’s penalty – maybe suspend temporarily from forum. No need for anybody to quit from SHC.
I find your suggestion rather amusing, ridiculous and childish.
Pls. Don’t forget we are NO longer CHILDREN anymore and don’t behave as such. Its time to grow up like one !
My 8 cts. worth.
Hi All,
I started it to ‘beat the bushes to disturb the snakes out’.
What a surprise I had. Live and learn, I remembered.
So we had the supporters of Tim telling of their admiration for Tim and forgiveness for his double meanings even tho’it always with carried sexual innuendoes.
Some people got personal and accused me of kicking him when he was down and that It was a cowardly act since I had kept quiet all these years. Also that my dislike for Tim was because he called me a ‘liar’ during the talk.
My dislike for Tim is not personal. But I naturally dislike bullies and people who twist their arguments. Nevertheless I kept my distance from him to keep the peace. I would love to get physical with Tim, except that I also have to remember societal norms. Since he never stepped on my toes, nothing could proceed.
Ms Wendy- If you have any suggestions to make, at least make it one that can be seriously considered. Throwing shoes is only ‘masak-masak’. Men don’t ‘play masak-masak’.
Before you reconsider and make another suggestion, perhaps you should ponder over the possibility that there might be a line of men, waiting in line, to teach your beloved Tim a lesson.
Indeed some have called to tell of the manner in which they were insulted by him. After all these time, they still remember. I also note that, in my case, only men called, no women. So I surmised Tim’s strategy was to ‘charm’ the women, and beat the opposition (men) to be top dog in this club.
Some of the comments also showed how biased some women could be. They felt it was alright for Tim, or possibly anyone, to insult, out-talk, out-shout and basically bully out decent people in the forum. So long as if they were not the victims.
My friend Tian Soo explained it very simply. If you want to know a person, observe how he(or she) treats other people. Not how they treat you. A very good observation. Tim has no qualms calling you names, insulting your language capability, disclosing some embarrasing medical or financial condition, to win his arguments and to basically bully you into silence. Most of the women,he charms like a sly fox. Some he succeeds, some he is unsuccessful. To those, he has ditched them.
I personally think such women should be ashamed of their double standards. But that would be like crying in the wilderness.
Tim has left, or so he claims. So why the discussion? To ‘beat the bush..’. And what an amazing result!! And I can only re-read Tian Soo’s summary of the Administrator’s guidelines to conclude. “When there is a member who is involved in almost every quarrel in this forum. You have to decide if that is good for your forum. If yes, stay quiet, if not a gentle reminder is appropriate….”.
My god!! Still at it?? When will all this end??
Ha ha Susan Chan, I wasn’t trying to moderate. I was aghast at all the verbal exchanges.
I’m not taking sides, even though some people have been sending me smses. All I can say is that this has gone on long enough and has to stop or people (non SHCians included) will conclude that we are all a bunch of cranky old crocks. I know I am not, ha ha ha.
I used to enjoy reading the comments, some good and some not so good, even though I had not much time to write some of my own. Now, all I read is unpleasant stuff. Sigh.
I ask again, what has happened to SHC?
Everyone involved has had his say.
Can everyone involved take a deep breath and STOP now?
Let’s get on with our lives, people!
Hi Mary,
Some of us have to vent lah. Forgiven?
Hi Charles Chua
What’s there to forgive?
Let’s all move on.
Hi Mary, WELCOME to the “bunch of cranky old crocks”. Like it or not, you are part of it after putting your name down. Interestingly, why do you still keep reading our “unpleasant stuff”? Is there nothing better on this site, or other sites, for you to spend your precious time on? I thought only the Administrator of a forum site can direct a discussion thread to stop?
Isn’t it ironical that getting on with our lives means “taking a deep breath and STOP”?
Yes, Tim may have “exit” but we are still talking. This is because there is yet an official verdict and the” jury” is deliberating. Perhaps your concern is that this will lead to more unpleasant outcome. Don’t worry. As long as there are no explicit sexual innuendoes, name-callings and insults, everyone will participate sensibly and reasonably. This is what a healthy forum site is all about.
Our common desire is to run this place better. I am sure you have some constructive ideas too, besides lamenting at the “bunch of cranky old crocks”.
Hi everybody #35,
After thinking about this post over the weekend, I have decided to suspend this Post temporarily for one week. My decision is because SilverHairsClub is very much a social club, and the heated exchange has advanced against the club’s key objective.
I prefer not to take this approach; but I think it is important for parties to settle down.
Terence Seah