This is exciting. Incubated in the womb of SHC’s forum
https://silverhairsclub.com/2008/01/1423
This is the long awaited planning meeting for Flea market and Origami project.
Venue: Scorebot, 18 Bali Lane (nearest MRT Bugis Junction; Opposite Raffles Hospital; Other Parking at Kg Gelam open area, Landmark, Bugis Junction or Raffles Hospital)
Date: Monday, 11 Feb
Tine: 12:30 pm
Mentor: Ron Koh
Free seating. All SHC members invited
The main subject is the Origami classes-cum-project. "Learn Origami and Earn $$$" program.
If time permits, we will unveil plans for the Flea Market program which also includes a total support program for SHC Flea Marketrepreneurs.
Sorry, KT:
But aren’t we jumping the gun a little? Perhaps we ought to be exploring the viability of origami as a saleable product at the proposed flea market first.
Don’t want to get expectations up unnecessarily, and to lose sight of my intention in coming forward to teach origami, which is to share a passion that I have enjoyed and benefited from intrinsically for many years – not for financial gain.
In truth, there is not much money in money – maybe enough for that cuppa, toast and bus fare. :o)
Cheers,
Ron
RApology:
e #1, I meant to say, :In truth there is not much money in origami…”
Ron Koh
Ron @ #1
SHC has traditionally kept even normally closed door planning sessions open as a community project. This open door policy has again been specifically requested for in this meeting.
The intention is noble. From SHC, the classes and the flea market are to be separate community projects driven by volunteers. An announcement and meeting like this is akin to an AGM or town hall meeting.
This is a meeting to decide who is to run what agenda for what event. It is not the event(s) by themselves. Any outcome is possible.
This is not normal. In many organisations and institutions, many projects are decided and agendas set in closed door session by a shadowy exco before public release. In such cases, the public release is actually a sell down.
Not in SHC. We bring even our planning out to members to debate and deliberate. This is the SHC’s difference.
This is how it works. So long as there is enough interest and volunteers to form an exco, the project would move into the next phase under the appointed Executive Officer (EO).
If the things go wrong and we have, say, a non-started the EO is promoted to be the Executed Officer.
Must’nt take things too seriously here. Be patient and go with the flow. Oohhmmmm….
Hee hee.
KT @ #3:
Okay, see your point. Just don’t want anyone to think that there is a pot of gold in origami, and want to learn origami only for perceived monetary gain.
nothing puts me off more than people asking, if they learned origami, “can make money or not”. :o)
Life is much, much more than just money and possessions.
See you on 11/2.
Ron Koh
Origami = only-gammy………yes, you can at best look forward to only a grammy award if you can perfect the art of origami otherwise pray hard that you will, olitorhood……………
HI Ron ,
didnt know its origami class today.sorry cannot attend because of the imminent chinese new year . gotlots of stuff to do . Can you hold another class after C.N.Y. please, please? thank you in anticipation of positive news.
grace wong
Ron,
I can’t make it for the origami session on the 11th as it’s my mum’s birthday. Gotta bring her out to lunch.
Btw, how on earth can one make money from origami, unless one is a teacher who charges a fee for teaching? I don’t think anyone would want to buy the ones done by us SHC members, hahaha.
I have to assume that yr mother isnt eligible for SHC membership (and really, there’s only 1 criterion which is strictly enforced tho) otherwise what’s taking her to join the origami learners after yr lunch?
Who knows, RonK may be so inspired that he’ll make all 3 old men Mr Fu, Mr Lu and Mr Shou to be her chit-chat buddies and body guards…….
Hahaha Tim. My mum will be 90. I remember my first lessons at origami were taught by her, although they were simple stuff like a frog, a basket and a ball.
I have a class in the evening, so prefer to spend a leisurely time with her before adjourning for it.
You go ahead and have fun making Fu, Lu and Shou but don’t distort them into pigs.
Wonder why, in her 1st lesson, she made you a frog, a basket and a ball, and not a prince, a white horse and a rose?
Now, you must start to believe in……………………..fate and so no worry even if there’s no life jacket in the boat to the kelong……….by then we shd know how to make you a life vest complete with oars to paddle & wings to fly.
Hi, Grace (#6) and Mary (#7):
Sorry if we have got things confused. The origami classes are NOT started on 11/2, so don’t worry. I will be taking a survey of sorts amongst those who responded to find an acceptable day/time, before we begin.
The meeting on 11/2 is to look into the feasibility of selling origami pieces at the proposed flea markets, for those who want to sell such items. We (origami folks) have made and sold origami before to raise funds for the MINDS and other charitable organisations. Origami pieces, if properly mounted and treated, can sell, but not enough to make living out of it in Singapore.
Cheers,
Ron
What’s wrong with me – can’t even get my grammar correct. I mean the origami classes are NOT starting on 11/2.
Ron
Ron @ #12
To reiterate what Ron has said.
The planning meeting on Mon 11 Feb 12.30 pm at Scorebot is to consider the feasibility of selling Origami at the flea market. If time permits, we will also consider the various aspects of organising the SHC Flea Market at Bali Lane.
All members interested in participating and/or helping out with the SHC Flea Market are invited to join.
This is not the Origami class. The class will start later at a time to be decided by Ron.
Hi KT, Ron,
I wont be able to participate in your meeting, as I would be travelling, but please go ahead with the discussion and thinking. Then, share your ideas with us.
Terence Seah
Hi Ron,
Im sorry I’ve got all my dates confused after going thro all the posts in this thread .When one is too busy & tired one shouldnt b skimming thro coz this is what happens.The reason was that I was afraid that I would miss yr class if I didnt log in to read yr updates.So can u b a dear & contact me on my hp:91176842.A SMS would be fine wth me informing me of the details of yr class. Many thanks & a ‘Seng Chia Ju Yee ‘
grace wong
Hi, Grace:
I will be contacting all those who registered via their personal emails. Will note your HP No. and request just in case.
Ron Koh
Ron @ #4 and Mary @ #9
Mary, you have been watcing too many dramas. It is not only about paper cranes and gresshoppers. That too but much, much more.
It is first for passion. But it doesn’t hurt if it makes money too.
Arts through history has been supported by patrons. Great art have great patrons. Vincent van Gogh’s Irises sold for US$ 98 million and it is not the most expensive painting ever. It is only flattering and gratifying to have your work valued by people who appreciate your art.
Where does that leave us with Origami? I will leave te sifu, Ron to elaborate on the class work. Don’t worry. If you want just an interesting hobby just leave it at that. You will learn a lot about the art and craft of Origami. Just enjoy yourself.
I will explore the application and the commercial part of Origami in greater details. I will touch on the opportunities in Origami both at the proposed launch in the SHC Flea Market and thereafter for those interested in this area. Take it as a free course option.
What in Origami can sell for good money?
See my favorite Origamis collected around the world. I categorised them and described their potential use and commercial impact.
http://www.drivehq.com/web/SHC_Flea_Market/home.htm
(This is my first time using this web server. You should see many interesting pictures. Let me know if you have any problems. You know-lah. Free things are like that.)
1 Tabletop and artefacts – This is what most people think of Origami. You can see there are much more possibilities to the typical cranes and grasshopper variety. You can also vary material to create eg transparent or cloth finishing.
2 Wall mounted – Commercially, the is the most exciting and is in great demand by homeimrpovement and interior decoration industry. You will never be bored with the design. It is easy to install, service and replace.
(a) It can be used as a embossed wallpaper only much better.
(b) Mounted and painted over with stone and pebble finish, it is like an expensive rock sculptured wall. What is exciting is its flexibility and availability. Any design can be implemented quickly and cheaply as opposed to traditional methods of sculturing or casting. The work can be mounted to a removal plywood base which can, in turn, be attached to any fixture and wall.
(c) The easiest way is to frame the work and display them like paintings. For people like me who prefer abstract works, this is a much better media. It adds dimension to your art.
3 Freestanding – Typically larger size and a substitute for life size sculptures. Dressing up columns and pillars is also a high demand and value product.
4 Face Motifs – This is not much different from above. It can be used as a design motif for walls. I separated them for a very iportant reason. Do you see the resembalance to firends in SHC. Hint: the first blue one is obviously for our biggest gun. Can you see yourself now in the self-portraits?
Tasellated lamp shades and backlighted Origami designs are already big industry. Basically any of the above designs in #18 can be transformed with creative lighting.
It could be used as lamp shades or works of art in its own right.
Ikea , for example, stock a popular range.
See examples in
http://www.origamitessellations.com/category/lighting/page/2/
http://www.thinkythings.org/LED-lamp/origami-lamp.html
KT:
That was a good collection of photos on origami you gathered. I should mention that most, if not all, of these impressive pieces are by some of the best origami artists in the world today. Not just anybody can reproduce what these artists have designed and produced. There is also the question of intellectual property rights if we want to produce and sell origami pieces designed by someone else.
The origami artist who designed and folded the human figures and faces, Eric Joisel, who I happen to know personally, is experiencing difficulty in selling his work for a decent amount.
I don’t mean to dampen the enthusiasm or sound overly negative towards the idea of selling the origami that SHCians produce – I just don’t want anyone to look at origami with $$$ in their eyes, and get so disappointed when this does not happen to the point of giving up origami altogether.
I rather SHCians pursue origami primarily as an art for the satisfaction it gives them and the many practical applications it can be applied to. If they can make some money on the side, that would be a bonus.
Believe me, if it was that easy to make a living from creating and selling origami pieces, I would have been among the first in line years ago. :o)
By the way, I have been told that Animal Planet is still showing vignettes (30-second clips in between regular programmes) on some origami models of endangered animals I designed and folded for them more than a year ago.
Cheers,
Ron Koh
Ron @ #20
You are absolutely correct.
Everybody can paint if they force themselves to. But not everyone can sell their painting for millions even if they willing to die for it.
The works of the Masters are there to inspire and provide a goal of achievement for all of us. The road to human evolution starts with trying to be the best that we can be. The road to Origami starts with your course and the first paper crane.
Don’t worry that SHC members will lose sight of the art/hobby for money. In this aspect, members are very balanced as they should be as senior citizens. With their experience, they have shown time and again, even in this forum, that they are quite capable of keeping their own counsel. Provided that all the facts are in front of them to make up their own mind.
This is what we should hope to achieve. You show them how to appreciate the art and the craft of Origami. I show them a little of the functional and valuation of the art. We are putting all the facts and knowledge on Origami to the membership for them to judge for themselves what they individually want to make out of it. We will do the greater justice by attempting to show all facets of Origami to everyone who seek the knowledge.
For members who may choose to set up what is essentially an Origami gallery this knowledge will come in most useful. Not only in selling what they make themselves but also works of others.
Gee, I am beginning to sound like a politician.
WARNING: Watching too much “Super Tuesday” is bad for your health.
Ron,
If you like to post anything eg videos, some pictures or diagrams, I can put it up for you as I did earlier in
http://www.drivehq.com/web/SHC_Flea_Market/home.htm
You can do this anytime. You can email attach to me at iwiz@cyberway.com.sg
Anyone who wants to post interesting material on Origami may also do so. The website is for you.
Bring along the material that you may wish to post right now on Monday as well as material which you may wish to show in your lectures. You can do a dry run if you wish.
KT:
Will take up your offer @ #22 in a couple of days – will save me a lot of effort lugging the material with me.
By they way, your links to the Face Motifs appear to be broken.
Ron
Ron @ #23
Please to be of service.
Try to press renew a few more times and wait. It’s a long image filled file. We’ll do it with thumbnails the next time. It was a quickie this time.
Let me know if you still have a problem.
Hi KT
This year Singapore can be prosperous in the midst of world and US economic uncertainties……..so said politicians.
The art of Origamni and potential in flea business can also …….find potential economic rewards…..with lot of fun, discovery and exchange of ideas, money and making new friendship……
: )) Andrew