As usual, I like to share thoughts with the general membership. Last night, some members sugested to me that comments on this forum should only be readable by members only. I think there is a view that only POSTs should be readable by the general internet community. As you know, websites are open to anybody in Singapore and the world. Of course, restrictions can be made.
I am not an expert in website design. I dont know how; but I guess changes can be made.
What is your opinion?
Terence Seah
Hi Terence
I think we need not stop non members from reading the posts and comments.
It is through reading these posts and comments that might led non members to join the club.
Thank you
Regards
King Seng
MY opinion is that the forum should be opened only to the members.
This forum is not anonymous and our e-mail addresses are there for all to see.
IMHO, this is not a good system. Also some of the comments are quite cruel and border on some personal details. I doubt they be appreciated if these were to be spread on-line. Personally I would not want my details spread on-line if anyone should disagree with me on any topic.
What some fail to realise is that when these comments are ‘published’, they are there for the whole world to see and read, both for the accuser and the accused, and there is no moderator.
Only my 2 cents though.
Let this forum run the course it now takes.
People eligible for SHC membership will have to read to know what SHC has and is; and hence, the membership has bloated to more than 4,000 within a short one year.
Untrue allegations can be easily refuted, and in its place, the truth surfaces and prevails.
A person should stand 24/7 to scrutiny if he hides nothing in his closets. A fortiori, if he’s a devil in disguise, it wont hurt that this be revealed & told.
Our email address can only be seen when a member logs in with his or her password.
King Seng @ 1
Dont really catch ur meaning. On one hand, we shd stop non members from reading n the other, non members reading the comments join SHC.
If I were 2 put it correctly, public joins SHC thru reading the comments. Rite?
Tim,
I don’t agree with you that “Untrue allegations can be easily refuted, and in its place, the truth surfaces and prevails.”
Allegations are not easily refuted. The other members make up their own mind based on a number of factors, some half-truths can be slipped in, innuendoes,etc. These are what lawyers are good for. In any case I do not want to spend my time in a forum where I have to ‘watch my back’ constantly.Cheers
CharlesC, I can empathise with you on yr sentiments as you seem to come across as a sufferer of gurtfyl accusations.
When the tongue wagging occurs at yr back without you knowing that it exists, yes, it gives you no chance to refute the false allegations.
However, at our age we shd hv the maturity to discern over time whether a person who throws parties and spews virtues with grandiloquence is a man of sincerity. Conversely, whether the other rumoured as a loafer is really a man of character. From there, you can gauge how much weight to give to the persons’ talk.
lawyers help you to vindicate and advance yr cause but, again, it seems you encounter hard luck here too, meeting up with the wrong lawyers.
Chin up, yr luck can and will change if you hv more faith in lawyers and the truth.
Hi King Seng, You are wrong, any1 can get 2 know our email address by reading these cmts that we posted. Non-members rite now are able 2 read all SHC comts but not allowed to post comts only.
In my opinion, I felt that SHC website can be accessble to non-members but only to certain level, i.e. they can only view on the main what are the activities ongoing, able to look at those fotos of the outing. But shd not b allowed to d level that they can viewed our comts, be it they are good or bad. This shd b a key point for them to join SHC if they are interested to know SHC beta.
Rgds… Dolly
I agree with Charles Chua. Innuendos and insinuations can sometimes be vulgar, caustic and uncalled for. Let the Forum for D & D be mainly focussed on D & D, Badminton Forum for discussions on badminton, and so on. The one who initiated the Forum should have control over the Forum by having editing facility so that NO INTEFERENCE will be entertained. Otherwise devils will rear their ugly heads.
YK @ 5
King Seng@1 said “need not” stop… Guess you miss out the “not” thus makes it sounds contradicting.
Dolly
King Seng is right. When non-member click latest comments, they are prompted to login. But they can read the comments in the post minus the email address.
Thank you Cheng for clarifying for me.
We need not worry about non members getting our email address as they cannot get in to see without keying in the user name and password.
Regards
King Seng
Hello Tim,
“as you seem to come across as a sufferer of gurtfyl accusations.”
What is ‘gurtfyl’? Do you mean ‘hurtful’ (as in olde Eng)?
This might be construed as an innuendo of an emotional or psychological baggage about yours truly. I don’t think this forum is for analysing anybody’s makeup and I would hesitate to speculate without good reasons, even if it is out of consideration for others.I would like to stick to the topic at hand, be it travel or food or getting new members. So I thank you for your concern and hope to meet your ‘right’ lawyer friends if that is your point.
Are you perhaps a lawyer?
Cheers
Even our Govt is conscious that allegations on the web are difficult to address.
1) If there are toxic accusations and name calling, they reflect the obvious marks of obnoxious persons. Anyone who reads with a clear mind and sound understanding can see through the snares, the crudeness and intended toxicity.
Such crude characters can appear “gentle and intellectual” at times, with multiple split personalities.
With their consistency in naughty, ugly and sometimes pretentious “good” writings, most of us would already know in our hearts explicitly their true colours and characters.
They are jealous and envious of others’ blessings and would seek person(s) to align with them for haughty further and hidden dark adventures.
2) So long the “victim(s)” being targetted have the right to reply and bring forth the obvious snares courageously that the accuser(s)/attackers are up to no good.
Light and darkness are obvious to people who are honest, humble and clear minded.
With a wide range of medias, it is almost impossible to censor, esp the webs.
3) It is up to the “victims” to choose to remain not to engage with toxic and obnoxious person(s) after saying his/her piece.
The only difficulty will happen if the “victim(s)” is too troubled emotionally with snide comments or did not want to defend him/herself or not good in writing to rebut or hate to be drawn with silly, ugly and malicious comments.
Sometimes, it is wiser not to bother with the mud being slung. Let it dry then flick it away. They will return to the originators. Let boomerang takes its course.
4)The 36th strategy in Chinese : move away is another excellent strategy.
Ignore and avoid any encounter with toxic person(s) in all forms.
5) Some might use ???(external beauty) with scheming evil intents with a combination of flowery words and charms to entice.
Wise men and ladies, just be careful!
However, most of us have seen through various phases of life, must surely can see through naughty and ugly behaviours but choose to remain silent and wise up not to engage with obvious filthy discussions and truncated things.
Such predators/attackers are usually lonely and selfish persons with lots of baggages, hurts, self inflicted wounds, jealousy, envy and bitterness.
They enjoy flinging mud, crude remarks and profanities.
They are fiends – evil spirit, very cruel or spiteful person up for mischief, annoyance. They are boastful to state so, openly.
It is a mark, an obvious evil mark.
It is also obvious : birds of the same feathers flock together.
They derive their selfish evil pleasures so to suppress their lack of love, joy, peace, patience and self control in their personal lives.
They need help yet have deep seated self denial and would constantly remain envious and jealous of others’ blessings.
Instead, they should be humble and improve themselves, get out of their own pit holes and gain useful, genuine and meaningful knowledge, understanding, wisdom, friendship and relationship. Stop digging pits for others to fall in. Do useful things.
Don’t be a willing “victim”. Simply walk away and don’t even look back at all.
6) Those who had a recent tour at Geylang would know what to have and what they won’t want to have.
Sight seeing for “tourist pleasure” without getting into those activities is a personal wise choice.
7) Every one has to make his/her own wise and learned choice who to associate with in word, writing, hobbies, learning,working, playing and going out together.
8) It is up to us individually whether we want to grow, develop and soar with hope, renewed challenges for greater improvement in living, working and playing whether within and outside SHC.
Ignore and avoid all obnoxious beings totally is the best. Seek and align with pure, good and excellent people, activities and things.
Learn from the past and progress with hope, purpose, diligence and wisdom.
Count our blessings and move on with the beauty of life and sincere friends
9) To err is human, forgive divine.
Hope that SHC will start a fresh new chapter of excellent, good and meaningful activities, focussed and beautiful dialogues/exchanges and truly worthy sincere friendships. From silver to gold and platinum.
Hi all,
I quite agreed with Dolly.
….Non-members rite now are able 2 read all SHC comments but not allowed to post comts only.
( If they can read our comments, meant that they can read our email addresses as well. RITE?
Scammers are out to steal our email addresses and sell the datas to companies. )
…..In my opinion, I felt that SHC website can be accessble to non-members but only to certain level, i.e. they can only view on the main what are the activities ongoing, able to look at those fotos of the outing. But shd NOT b allowed to d level that they can viewed our comts, be it they are good or bad.
( From the photos of activities and a brief write up of each post, eg.
D n D etc. will be good enough to have an idea what they can expect when they join SHC.)
I am totally AGAINST them reading our personal comments esp. when they are some UGLY comments among some members SLINGING MUD at each other.
Should these comments be moderated as well and CENSORED off if it deemed necessary by the moderator.
Make it a precedent so that in future, no ugly comments are made that will infuriate the other member to “attack” or seek “revenge”.
Such actions are unwholesome and instead we want members to be happy airing their personal views in the forum.
What kind of impression will it give to readers if such UGLY comments are seen by them ?
My 5cts. worth. Again,
this is my own opinion but you can choose to differ.
Remember 1 man’s meat is another man’s poison.
” Foster more LOVELINESS
not HATRED. ” amongst SHCians.
Including crude and snide remarks.
Tim,
what is “gurtfyl”? I have never come across such a word and went straight for my trusty dictionary. I’m stumped. Is it Greek?
helo Roland @9…that would make the thread rather boring..no spices,salt & pepper tak sedap lah…sikit2 boleh tak..tak salah leh..
kita cakap baik2 ok:)
Hi everybody on this thread,
Your feedback and discussion so far have been very healthy and valuable. Please continue to give your feedback on whether comments should be readable by the general internet community ie non-members.
Please respect the opinion and feedback from other members.
Terence Seah
Hi Terence
I was prompted to join not because I read the forum. I joined because like Ron Oz, there is no mlm, no politics, no religion, just people my age making friends and having fun together with whatever time we have left.
I made some very good friends and met some really nasty people. But I survived. I am selective of what I read on the forum. And comments by some people, I skip because I dont wish to waste my time on nonsense. To each his own.
Of course there are some peole who joined as members because they were attracted by the comments about the fun we have together.
However, just to bring up one concern. I understand that there are some underaged people who actually managed to register as members and post comments on the forum. But they have since “disappeared”.
Hi Terence,
I noticed that if anyone were to do a search in the internet whether be it google or yahoo etc.. for example on : SHC, Silverhair, gamesday or event the word olympic, our website will appear on the search thread and is readily accessable to them.
So here is a question on whether we are going to advertise our SILVERHAIRS CLUB for more new members to join or are we going to limit to only those who are currently joined and each will be given a case sensitive password to log into another protected platform?
My opinion is to leave this website as it is while on the other hand, subject of discussion on case sensitive issues to be address to selected group of SHCians through Email.
I feel that we should not overload our administrator to specifically open another protected platform and have the chores in maintaining it.
Just only my point of view.
Regards
Patrick Yeo
Well said, Patrick.
Agree completely. FOCUS ON THE THREAD TOPICS with pleasant exchanges and answers to relevant queries.
Add quality spices and salts where appropriate.
Remain dignified, professional and fair.
After 45, should be more mellow and gracious with each passing day. Blessed each other for betterment sincerely on each new day.
Nor,
Of course I don’t mind your type of comments as they are NOT vulgar nor caustic which I detest. However, they should not take up so much space that the objective of the forum is lost. Agree?
Hi Terence,
I like SHC forum as it is. Your forum has character from hugs to serious issues. Your members have freedom to participate or challenge or ignore the comments. Besides enjoying the lively chatting, there are heaps to learn from the postings & comments.
No worries about ‘ugly’ comments – remind us to be kind because everyone we meet is fighting some kind of battle.
Mary (from Perth)
Correction to last para at #23 :
Bless each other for betterment daily.
Well said, Mary Lee (from Perth).
Terima kaseh Roland @18.Orang melayu cakap “buang yg keroh,ambil yg jernih”..stay healthy & be happy..better this way.
Carly@20..yes u r rite..cudnt agree more!
SHC is a house where ppl meet & make frens besides sharing their valuable experiences.
so far i met many frens & even some bcome buddies like sisters & brothers..we are very happy to meet each other everytime..teasing & laughing until wanna pengsan!,we care & respect everyone ..so much so like after every outing/activity, we always discuss when to meet again…that’s so nice:)
I cant imagine im still chatting in this forum when 70yrs old!..alamak susah hor!..hehe
So..Yes,in my opinion let others(non members) read..should be ok..kesian ,if they cannot, bcos some might only know how to read..but donno how to ‘talk’ & express..many types of people in this wide big square world!..ooppss!sori,tido time:)
O P E N
If not now for us, when?
Hi Catherine,
My sentiments in your # 20 Para. 1 & 2.
Jie
Correction,
Should be Caroline Gee instead of Catherine.
My apologies to both.
I guess age is catching up despite all my denials..Ha Ha …………..Jie
I don’t see why we should restrict the forum to members only. Anyone reading what’s written on the forum may agree, rebut, disagree or add on etc. And if they really want to hve their say, they would hve to join as member. Wouldn’t that be better for SHC? Several hve joined us this way!
Haha Jie I thought I was the LLP. Welcome to the club.
Its ok. No harm done :)
See you next week at the SHC Gathering.
Have a nice weekend.
Caroline Gee
Correct, CharlesC, the word is “hurtful”. I aint born to type well and my mouse/cursor was disappearining fast yesterday b4 I cd correct the it.
Make no mistake abt it : I am not bothered to analyse yr make-up – whether you do it for the day or for the nite. Also, even if I were to show you good lawyer friends, you’ll still see them as bad, evident from yr prejudicial “…what lawyers are good for”.
This forum has evolved itself in the spirit that it was and remains as it is, from the few comments in the early days to so many today, including long preaches of virtues. If there’s a purpose to criticise and hit a comment hard, why be scared and call it vulgar?
And so why be scared to let others – non SHCians yet – to read? If you hv a point to make and it makes sense, say it. But if it doesnt make sense, throw out some food and sometimes you can still rally the support you want.
Hi Terence,
I agreed wif Charles C, Steven C n Dolly dat non members shld not b allowed 2 read the comments but can view the main posts.
My reasons are the same as Steven Chan – “there are some UGLY comments among some members SLINGING MUD at each other” n “What kind of impression will it give to readers if such UGLY comments are seen by them ?”
Steven C: I hope u dont mind me quoting some of ur comments.
Cheers, Dennis W
Dear Nor at #18
To write, speak or act any form of caustic and crude things do not need any education or culture.
Cheers,
Hi Terence and all,
I think we should let things as it is, the most important thing is that our wholesome activities carry on, improves and continues to strive to be free and easy, fun and inviting to others to contribute in whatever we they can.
So we have to let everyone say their piece. Every blind man in the story when meeting the elephant, feels and touch what they felt. So there should be freedom who knows who is right if they dont speak up ??
Everyone is right in their own way, but not everyone should be fighting to say they are the rightest( if there is such a word) as it will only annoy the other who is also right. (This is another important aspect of freedom)
So on that note, everyone should learn to respect each other views and if you know you are right and confident, just say it once and let everyone decide what they can do with whatever you say, no need to repeat and repeat.
On the other hand, all these continuing debate or airing can be costly to Terence as he receives all this posting on his PDA and even it it cost a cent a letter, it can cost quite a bit.
So let us be prudent and post what is good only for activities, fun, events that promote SHC warmth, friendship and goodwill as most of us have our time of needs for such things at one time or another.
Just one other blinded view. Cheers
Ron @ #35
You made valid points.
But on cost you need to stand corrected. These things have an effective one-time sunk cost. Its forum or no forum. It should not enter the equation here.
After all, consider this. What is the real cost of the freedom of speech?
Ronald Wie at #35
I vote you Community Relations Officer for SHC!
Joy
Well said, Joy. Ronald, congrats for an appointment !
Hi Ronald and all :
I agree with you (Ronald and several others) that there are no need of “censorship”. We are mature enough to know the difference with outright nonsense, truth and goodness.
Let the “victims” defend him/herself and move on. All clear minded people will know in their hearts truths, snide caustic remarks and mud being slung.
SJCians are above 45, every one comes from different background from humble to what got us. This does not matter as long as we treasure each other, want genuine fellowship and take part in meaningful and purposeful activities together.
Let each decides for him/herself what activity and person(s)one wants to be associated with at his/her comfortable level.
After 45, we ought to be gracious, mellow and sincerely seeking useful, helpful, meaningful and purposeful friendship and fellowship; and grow wiser, clearer and more gracious each day.
With each passing day and interaction, we seek greater and deeper knowledge, sounder understanding and practical wisdom for a better tomorrow, this ought to be a key SHC membership objective.
Caustic and snide remarks should not be in at all through each individual’s self discipline and self respect.
Life is too precious for negatives, our useful time is limited and shorter by the second.
Warmest regards,
To Terence and Ron Wie @35
“I think we should let things as it is,”
“So on that note, everyone should learn to respect each other views and if you know you are right and confident, just say it once and let everyone decide what they can do with whatever you say, no need to repeat and repeat.”
Well said Ron. For the sake of peace and fellowship, I also feel we should not belabour things of the past. Not only are these comments unnecessary, they prevent and obstruct good fellowship. So with due respect to all, I hope we can have some peace in this forum.
Cheers
Let love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self discipline reign too in SHC.
Hi Terence,
Here is my say.
I like SHC to be as it is. Why should we ‘fear’ having non members read what we have to say? There is nothing to hide. As it is, the number of members has been increasing so that says it all. People have read and have got interested enough to sing up.
Personally, I believe one should speak up, like Ron Wie said, instead of bad mouthing others behind their backs and then pretending to be ‘good guys’ here on SHC. (This, I have personally witnessed but do not wish to elaborate further, as those people themselves should know who I’m referring to).
If someone has the habit of ‘being in your face’ I reserve the right to tell that person to ‘bugger off’, if I may use a word that some puritanical ones might call ‘crude’. If someone expresses an interest in an activity, well and good, but ‘harassing’ a person or attempting to embarrass someone into participating in any activity should not be allowed, as I have also experienced here at SHC.
I agree with you that this site should be used to ‘communicate’ with other members, hence I feel that ‘preaching’ of any kind, whether it be religious or not (and for that matter, Confucianism included), should not be done here and that should include philosophical quotes that to some, may mean something, but could sound offensive and hypocritical to others. Preaching is not real communication. It is a kind of ‘one upmanship’ a way of saying that “I’m better than you”.
I reiterate. I’m here to make friends, not enemies and I have made many friends and intend to continue doing so. I am glad I chanced upon this site a year ago and I want to take this opportunity to thank you, Terence Seah, for creating this club. You have a BIG heart! :-)
Terence, apologies. Typo.Hehe.
“sing up” should have been “sign up”.
Hi those who favour closing the comments to unregistered forum members.
Well, this is the first time, I ask if comments should be readable by non-members. And I read the basic concern is that non-members may be turned off by vulgar, inconsiderate and offensive participants, and therefore will not join SilverHairsClub .
In the last three years, I have heard of 4 cases of members who refuse to participate further with SilverHairsClub because of comments made by other members. But perhaps, some of you have known other such cases.
I tend to support the current open forum, of course, subject to the taboos which have been set since the club’s formation. This is because I believe that over 45s are reasonable and sensitive.
May I ask other members if you see why the SilverHairsClub forum comments should be closed to the internet communiy and non-members.
Terence Seah
Dear Terence and all
I was told about a couple of those nasty caustic occasions happened in the second half of 2007.
After I was introduced to SHC at Scorebot during the financial and investing talk in Dec 2007, I read them and fully aware of the caustic and obnoxious nature of those instances.
Yet I am not turned off, I joined in Jan 2008.
A person who has reached and passed 45 years old ought to be sensible, not easily offended and has broad, deep and wide perspectives of life.
Yet remain courageous, dignified, gracious, fair, professional and graceful with each passing and learning day.
Warmest regards
A Parting Shot (from Earl Woods) poetic comment:
Golf is not Tiger’s primary mission in life.
He has a higher calling that will be manifested later in life.
I don’t know what it will be.
But it will be humanitarian.
And it will be about children.
And it will be about caring and sharing.
He feels it, and I see it.
Now, we all have to wait and experience it.
Our comments should be open to the public . I suspect this was how many of our SHC members came to know about us.
Our members come from diverse backgrounds, we can expect differing views to surface from time to time. Some members may experience ocassional friction. This is quite normal, and no cause for undue alarm, more so as the our SHC group gets larger and members interact more intensely.
Ronald Wi #35 comments, ..well said and that is in the spirit of a true SHC.
O P E N
SHC may be big but the group of regular erudite and expressive commentators few. Discussion and opinion is in danger of being controlled, monopolised and manipulated. With the noisy few seemingly speak for the many. Worse for the lack of diversity of views. That repetitive rantings can pretend to be intellectual discourse.
The other thing to avoid is the trivialising of the forum. Do we want a forum to be little more than a booking schedule and a diary of events. Do we want the forum to be a place where a typical learned and informed opinion is where and when to eat?
To avoid this unhealthy and unbalance situation, open the discussion to the world. Let the world listen in to the forum. If people feel that the debate is interesting they would join SHC to view their opinion.
Well said from the last four comments.
OPEN, Stay Open.
We need more who can inspire, improve, encourage and come up with greater input and comment that build up in every aspect of daily life, work and play.
From learned, well thought, thoughtful, inspiring , re-inspiring, and informed sources for diverse and deeper communication and medias beyond occasional “hee haw and trivial”.
In fact, it is good that writing be in standard form so that communication, meaning and purpose of thought, intelligence, information, discussion and wisdom are concise, of value and of quality. Some occasional discourse for “humour” and variety, poke fun is acceptable.
Implicit or explicit vulgarities, personal name calling and insults should be out for cultured and mellow persons beyond 45 years young.
We can be proud with well meaning and purpose in learning, communicating and living.
Such bring value, impact and change for the better.
SHC should strive to attract Singapore local and international readers and members, and allow interesting debates and discussions beyond mere calender of events.
We need diversity of views, comments and input from the most humble to the highest intellectual and professional contents from all vacations, professions, school of thoughts and creeds.
We need and want to develop and grow wisely, graciously and gracefully.
Let it stay OPEN as it is and move higher up with quality, greater meaning and significance.
I don’t write much but would also like to share my view. I am also for the open forum.
In this case the pressure for individual behaviour is better balance and maybe the author ity may just watch and find that we are open and left us alone to enjoy our way of chatting.
Dennis
Well said, Dennis Har.
Let all our dialogue, communication and interaction be in meaningful and purposeful forms, including worthy/helpful inspiring quotes, kind, classic and wise words from sages (past, present and future) to be shared, heard, learned, and absorbed into our healthy, robust and strong wellness.
Let us have width, depth, height and far reaching perspectives, dimensions in any worthy topics and subjects allowing all capacity, scope and caliber from all walks of life.
A truly harmonious inclusive society.
Let every living being be included for fun, learning growth and betterment.
Good language skills are beyond basic nursery rhythms and phonics.
So, from nursery rhythms and phonics to English literature/writing and wise sayings, great and greatest work of art/music/opera/play, quotations, philosophy, deep thought, science and technology; from book-keeping to finance, economics, art of governing and management, financial management to high finance.
Beautiful, joyous, worthy and peaceful things are in great peaceable abundance.
Let us progress and move out completely from all negatives into a new SHC world of love, joy, peace and abundance of goodness.
No looking back or turning back.
Avoid Lot wife’s silly fatal mistake at all cost! No turn backing please.
Warmest regards
KYL, Andrew
this thread is abt ‘shall comments be readable to public’….
Dennis’s pt of view at #50 is relevant and Andrew’s comment at #51 first sentence is also relevant.
Jane
Hi Terence
This is a virtual club set up by you.All can see read and join later. Let all members feel free to post their thoughts . By drawing a line as to what can be read will create hesitation/apprehension on our members. We have TIM and KT .They are STIMULUS in most postings .Without these guys, the conversation will end in a few postiongs.
Thank you Chow Weng. We dont have feathers so we dont flock together but we do find the affinity, as also with KT and many others who dont preach.
Haha, JaneW, I like yr #52. Since the 1st sentence in #51 is a short “Well said, Dennis Har.”, you’re giving credit to DennisH twice so if for the rest of the year he goes abt doing the happy hahahaha, credit to you.
Let it be open discussion and all that makes existence valuable to anyone depends on the enforcement of restraints upon the actions of other people. Some rules of conduct, therefore, must be imposed — strictly by your rules & regulations that you have stipulated upon signing up as SHC members.
If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.
Just my point of view
Let me offer my perspective of the matter. Non-members should be allowed to read both posts and comments. They are restricted to the read-only mode. Members are rightly given the additional privilege of the read-and-write mode. This privilege will be incentive enough for non-members to sign up as members.
With regard to non-members reading members’comments there is nothing to fear if we write responsibly and give due respect to differing opinions made bona fide. Let us agree to disagree amicably and graciously and be role models to the younger members of the public and others who may happen to browse our SHC website.
Robert Quek
Hi SHCians who are in support of non-members and the rest of the internet community reading our comments on this forum,
I read more members favour keeping the SilverHairsClub forum as it is today. When the SilverHairsClub site was first designed, it drew a line between registered and unregistered members. Only registered members can write a comment or a Post. It had worked well so far.
I hope members are aware the SilverHairsClub website is moderated. Discussions on religion, sex, race and politics do not appear at all. Direct selling and MLM are not acceptable for publishing.
However, the administrator does not censure mud-slinging, name-calling, snipes and criticism. This normally reflects negatively on the writer.
I do understand the views of those who object to comments being open to the public, but I also hope you appreciate that whether registered members and non-members, both groups will still formulate their own impressions of SHC.
On this note, I have decided that this forum will continue to be open to the internet community.
Only registered members can participate in the chit-chats.
Have fun.
Terence Seah
Hippe Hurrah!
Good is the enemy of greatness.
Great is obviously an excellent choice!
Yeah!..we won!..where’s our prize ,prince charming Terence?
Ooopps!..this news stale oredi, now then i know!..susah lah :)
U see..i like ‘talking’ in the forum..no need to meet..its like having a 24/7 frens!
sometimes got tips on health,travelling,cooking,makaning etc..or simply just chat for fun!..thats what i love about SHC!
Go ahead Nor and everybody, enjoy yourself on this forum.
I have just tripled our monthly hosting plan to allow for greater traffic. This means everybody can chat, chat and chat, 10 times more what is used today.
But, but, but, for everybody, please stay focus on each thread, and respect the author of that thread.
Terence Seah
How did I miss this thread?
Just to share some personal experiences: I have been a member of an origami forum for the last twelve years. This forum has members from every conceivable corner of the world, and includes eminent mathematicians, scientists, college professors, housewives, students, 12-year kids, etc, etc, etc. Posts to this forum are readable by everyone in the internet community (and I dare say is read by a large percentage of origami enthusiasts worldwide, who for reasons of their own have not joined the forum).
Sure, we have had occasional contentious issues, differences of opinion, and such. But generally, our forum has functioned very well and happily all these years.
Members (we have 947 members as of now) know that the forum is not the same as personal email correspondence. It’s being archived, being read by people all over the world. We don’t share personal information we are not comfortable having completely public, and we don’t share personal information of others without their consent (including email addresses, HP numbers, etc).
We keep all posts focused on origami. If there is a need to deliberate on other matters, this is done separately, off-thread.
Members observe mutual respect. Making adverse personal and unsubstantiated comments/attacks reflects as much on the person making the comments as it does on the person against whom the comments are directed.
Unsubstantiated personal attacks are not tolerated. Such members will have their future posts moderated or, in the worst case scenario, be ejected from the forum. In the past 12 years, I know of only one such case.
So long as mutual respect prevails, those us us with SHC should have nothing to hide. Let this forum be open and read by all, I say. That is how I learned of SHC, got attracted, and decided to joined.
Ron Koh
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juz be yourself and speak truthfully. if others dun agree wif ur views [usually there will be], then that’s what opinions are!
so juz straighten your tie and speak out or chill out and enjoy others’ opinions. both ways are fun.
cheers!
jeremy